Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Source for these figures and if mind has the source of how much power Big G was using that would also be great 🙂
Sure thing. 🙂
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=512818&from=thread&pagenumber=5#post12072617
Originally posted Today at 2:15PM by Eternal Idol
Galactus was pissed off, but he wasn't all pissed off. More like 85% pissed off. Therefore, it's safe to say he didn't go over 9000 when he shot Thanos.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I see. thanks for that info. It was certainly enough that he said he took a lot out of him and he had to feed though right?
No. He said that he "exerted himself" trying to pierce Thanos' shields.
When you jog, you exert yourself. When you sprint, you exhaust yourself.
The thanos wank is strong in this thread.
Does everybody know that the omega beams ARE NOT the same thing as the Omega effect?
It is like comparing a triple a battery to a lightning bolt
But anyway.
pc validus
pc omega
superboy prime aka time trapper
Infinity man ( maybe?)
Mandrakk
Drax (lol)
Rulk ( depends on who is writing lmao)
Surter w/ twilight sword
Originally posted by Mindset
No, it wasn't, unless you can show he had recently fed before the attack.Even then, he was able to destroy 3 star systems while weaker than that.
That made no sense... you want me to prove a negative... You can't prove how fed or not fed he was and yet your assuming something and want me to prove otherwise? You don't know how fed he was and neither do I. So, unless stated that he's weak which is usually the case then it's safe to assume he's at normal levels correct?
So, your saying when he hit thanos with that CONCENTRATED blast he was in better shape then the 3 star systems showing... Good that further proves my point on how impressive it was to take that blast.
By the way I'm still waiting on this list that DS has that he's erased and or killed people with on or greater then Thanos... I want battle feats and people that this has worked on ALONE one v one. The problem is people keep avoding the question because such an extensive list doesn't exist. Yet people always say... DS OB or OS them haha. A lot of hyperbole and not much substance for that form of attack huh?
Originally posted by Tenebrous
No. He said that he "exerted himself" trying to pierce Thanos' shields.When you jog, you exert yourself. When you sprint, you exhaust yourself.
When did I say he exausted himself? He clearly stated he was impressed that it took him all that energy that he needs to feed afterwards from a mere forcefield. Don't you think the writer was clearly trying to give the impression that Thanos shields were very strong and did tax galactus. The evidence clearly suggests that.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiThe fact that he needed to feed after one blast shows he was not well fed, I didn't expect you to prove it, I expected you to think.
That made no sense... you want me to prove a negative... You can't prove how fed or not fed he was and yet your assuming something and want me to prove otherwise? You don't know how fed he was and neither do I. So, unless stated that he's weak which is usually the case then it's safe to assume he's at normal levels correct?So, your saying while weaker then that he destroyed 3 star systems... So, your saying... when he was weaker then when he said he must fed because that made him lose vital energies... he destroyed 3 star systems. So, your saying when he hit thanos with that CONCENTRATED blast he was in better shape then the 3 star systems showing... Good that further proves my point on how impressive it was to take that blast.
Take an English class, your second paragraph is a mess.
I'm saying that the blast he hit Thanos with was not a full powered blast, because when weaker he was able to destroy 3 star systems when he was pissed.
Originally posted by Mindset
The fact that he needed to feed after one blast shows he was not well fed, I didn't expect you to prove it, I expected you to think.Take an English class, your second paragraph is a mess.
I'm saying that the blast he hit Thanos with was not a full powered blast, because when weaker he was able to destroy 3 star systems when he was pissed.
So, then prove to me what level he was at when he blasted Thanos.. Since your claiming he was more and have something to back that up. Please do so. You contradict yourself... you say well since he needed to feed afterwards he must not have been well fed. First, I never said well fed I said he wasn't weak and in normal condition. Your saying he was weaker cause he had to feed not me. So, at a weakened state he was able to blast 3 star systems at was pissed. Was he not pissed at Thanos.. I think the verbage said that exact thing didn't it? So, now your going to prove to me then that he was more pissed when he executed your said feat correct? So, please then prove these assumptions your making...
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
He could have but that is an assumption. Against omega he specifically was prepped and had all three ready to go as stated on panel. Against Galactus and his own words he says a MERE forcefield. Not three.
I had this debate before. Galactus is referring to Thanos' use of the actual tactic of using force field technology, not the literal quantity of forcefields.
We know this to be true because Galactus specifically states "never before have I exerted myself to pierce a mere forcefield."
Now others want to take that as a literal statement. That's fine and that's their right. It is however, taking away the wrong meaning from the statement.
Galactus speaks in absolutes...he does not go into "detail." To make it easier to grasp....think how many types of force fields, and how many different layers of said forcefields, Galactus has come against in 20 billion years of his existence. He has breached them all (never before have I exerted = i've never had to try this hard before). Here Galactus is making a comparative statement...he's comparing Thanos' shields against all the others he has ever come up against in the past. In order to compare thanos' shields against all other shields Galactus has ever encountered, Galactus will say "i've never had to try so hard to pierce a forcefield before" regardless if there are 10 layers or 10,000. That's because he is referring to the tactic of using the force field, not the actual quantity.
Further proof:
Infinity Abyss, where Thanos uses 3 shields against Omega, takes place BEFORE the Thanos limited series. We know this because Galactus specifically mentions Thanos stealing his DNA in Thanos #3.
Let us assume that Thanos really did use 1 shield against Galactus, despite saying "activate all defensive shielding."
You're now making the implicit assumption that at some point between Infinity Abyss and the Thanos limited series, Thanos actually DOWNGRADED his shielding from at least 3 layers, to only 1 at most (because Thanos did say "activate ALL defensive shielding"😉.
Is it in Thanos' nature to actually DOWNGRADE his tech? To reduce his power? We all know the answer to that.
Further more, when Thanos confronted Galactus, he KNEW what the stakes were. The entire universe was in peril, and the only way to avert disaster was to reason with Galactus.
Don't you think that Thanos, who by his own admission "prepares for every eventuality" would actually want to bring with him his BEST technology in case he would actually have to directly confront Galactus?
Or do you think that Thanos purposely decided to take along only 1 shield, and leave the rest of them at home because Thanos is an arrogant SOB?
Essentially, if you take Galactus' statement at literal face value, you are making the full assumption that Thanos has downgraded his tech, and brought with him minimal protection when he went to directly challenge Galactus. Let's not forget that in the same series (Thanos Limited series) Thanos was actually wary of Galactus' power and wanted to avoid confrontation at all costs...yet when the time comes to go face to face, he brings only 1 shield when he has at least 3 available to use?
He was not well fed or anywhere near it, all signs seem to show he was already in need of feeding, or close to it, if one blast exhausted him enough to where he needed to feed.
I brought up Annihilation because while in a weaker state he was able to produce a more powerful blast than the one the was used to attack Thanos.
No, he was not as pissed at Thanos as he was at the Annihilation wave, the people who had beaten him, captured him, and then used him as a weapon. If he was do you really think he would have stopped to listen to what Thanos had to say after he destroyed his shields? 😬
Where did I contradict myself?
Originally posted by Tenebrous
I had this debate before. Galactus is referring to Thanos' use of the actual tactic of using force field technology, not the literal quantity of forcefields.We know this to be true because Galactus specifically states "never before have I exerted myself to pierce a mere forcefield."
Now others want to take that as a literal statement. That's fine and that's their right. It is however, taking away the wrong meaning from the statement.
Galactus speaks in absolutes...he does not go into "detail." To make it easier to grasp....think how many types of force fields, and how many different layers of said forcefields, Galactus has come against in 20 billion years of his existence. He has breached them all (never before have I exerted = i've never had to try this hard before). Here Galactus is making a comparative statement...he's comparing Thanos' shields against all the others he has ever come up against in the past. In order to compare thanos' shields against all other shields Galactus has ever encountered, Galactus will say "i've never had to try so hard to pierce a forcefield before" regardless if there are 10 layers or 10,000. That's because he is referring to the tactic of using the force field, not the actual quantity.
Further proof:
Infinity Abyss, where Thanos uses 3 shields against Omega, takes place BEFORE the Thanos limited series. We know this because Galactus specifically mentions Thanos stealing his DNA in Thanos #3.
Let us assume that Thanos really did use 1 shield against Galactus, despite saying "activate all defensive shielding."
You're now making the implicit assumption that at some point between Infinity Abyss and the Thanos limited series, Thanos actually DOWNGRADED his shielding from at least 3 layers, to only 1 at most (because Thanos did say "activate ALL defensive shielding"😉.
Is it in Thanos' nature to actually DOWNGRADE his tech? To reduce his power? We all know the answer to that.
Further more, when Thanos confronted Galactus, he KNEW what the stakes were. The entire universe was in peril, and the only way to avert disaster was to reason with Galactus.
Don't you think that Thanos, who by his own admission "prepares for every eventuality" would actually want to bring with him his BEST technology in case he would actually have to directly confront Galactus?
Or do you think that Thanos purposely decided to take along only 1 shield, and leave the rest of them at home because Thanos is an arrogant SOB?
Essentially, if you take Galactus' statement at literal face value, you are making the full assumption that Thanos has downgraded his tech, and brought with him minimal protection when he went to directly challenge Galactus. Let's not forget that in the same series (Thanos Limited series) Thanos was actually wary of Galactus' power and wanted to avoid confrontation at all costs...yet when the time comes to go face to face, he brings only 1 shield when he has at least 3 available to use?
Good post and I see the points your making and do agree to a certain degree. I think though by your own admission he statement could be taken literally. However, lets take your assumption as fact which is fine by me... That takes nothing away from my point. People were saying a full blast from a skyfather would kill Thanos. Someone else says a full blast from a fellow trans would do the trick. I was merely pointing out that he's taken a blast from a pissed off galactus (abstract) that wasn't full strength but clearly he exerted energies and was really impressed with the shielding of Thanos. Then more blast from a very powerful Omega who again could be Abstract or certainly way higher then Trans and his shields again pretty much held up. Blast from Tyrant and Odin without his shielding. One where a skyfather (Odin) was pissed and summoned his special weapon. I was merely saying that I believe Thanos has shown it would take a lot more then a blast from a Trans character to kill him.
Originally posted by Mindset
He was not well fed or anywhere near it, all signs seem to show he was already in need of feeding, or close to it, if one blast exhausted him enough to where he needed to feed.I brought up Annihilation because while in a weaker state he was able to produce a more powerful blast than the one the was used to attack Thanos.
No, he was not as pissed at Thanos as he was at the Annihilation wave, the people who had beaten him, captured him, and then used him as a weapon. If he was do you really think he would have stopped to listen to what Thanos had to say after he destroyed his shields? 😬
Where did I contradict myself?
How do all signs point to anything? Look at Tene well thought out post. He clearly believes Galactus was rather impressed with Thanos shields in that all his existence this was the most he's had to work. That is impressive and could very well mean it was taxing and says nothing about him being weak to begin with. That could also be true right?
Did you see a difference in the blast he hit Thanos with and the one in annihilation? Don't you think one was more concentrated on Thanos then the other? So, I'm not really sure what point your making with that at all. Whether he was more pissed then he was at thanos that is debatable but fine i can accept that. However, collateral damage or lack there of is proof of nothing. We don't know he was weak when he hit thanos that was never said nor implied. So, he could very well have been in a normal state. Don't you agree it usually says he's weak when the writer is trying to convey that message? It does. So, the evidence goes towards him not being weak. So, really in a stronger state he could very well have hit Thanos with a harder blast. Nobody really knows it's all assumptions on both parties and yours are no different.