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Thanos-Silver surfer-Genis vell vs H/P Doomsday-Superman 1M-Wonder Woman w/Gear

Thanos,Silver Surfer and Genis Vell up agaisnt H/P Doomsday,Superman 1M and wonder woman who is completly equiped with all her gear. The fight has 2 stipulations:

1. It's a "all out"battle with no one holding back and no CIS.

2. There are no BFR's and everyone fights "in-character".


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Depending on where the match took place, Team 1 could attempt to isolate WW for a majority of the match, letting them get the much needed 3 on 2 to pull out some wins against team 2.


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team 2 without much difficulty, imo.


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team 1 wins


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Scenario 1: Marvel in a shitstomp.

Scenario 2: Marvel again, closer because of the no-BFR clause.

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ohh, just noticed there were 2 different scenarios.

first battle = team 1, (only because of their option to BFR.)
second battle = team 2 without much difficulty.


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Team 2 both times. Superman 1M? He kinda solo's. And Wondy with all gear would just use the medusa head and turn surfer and genis into stone. since it's old God magic.


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Team 2 both times. Superman 1M? He kinda solo's.


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no

Superman 1M? are you kidding me? The guy is abstract in power. His freaking force vision held half a galaxy at bay. don't be silly. He punched his way thru thousands of years into the futre while weak. Stop yourself.

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Superman 1M? are you kidding me? The guy is abstract in power. His freaking force vision held half a galaxy at bay. don't be silly. He punched his way thru thousands of years into the futre while weak. Stop yourself.
Superman 1M is not abstract level...

He didn't even show more power than a skyfather

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Superman 1M? are you kidding me? The guy is abstract in power. His freaking force vision held half a galaxy at bay. don't be silly. He punched his way thru thousands of years into the futre while weak. Stop yourself.


No, he's not. He held half a galaxy together for a brief while. He punched his way through a broken time barrier.

Hulk's punched through a timestorm. Is he abstract level in power? No way in hell. S1M is Skyfather, sure.

Genis is so far beyond that...omniversal level telepathy, capable of killing Eternity, existence in every time period, self-resurrection, just to name a few.

And Thanos is also high-trans/low Skyfather. Who can BFR DD easily in the first match.

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No, he's not. He held half a galaxy together for a brief while. He punched his way through a broken time barrier.

Hulk's punched through a timestorm. Is he abstract level in power? No way in hell. S1M is Skyfather, sure.

Genis is so far beyond that...omniversal level telepathy, capable of killing Eternity, existence in every time period, self-resurrection, just to name a few.

And Thanos is also high-trans/low Skyfather. Who can BFR DD easily in the first match.

He was skyfather without the super sun.

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He punched his way through a broken time barrier.
how'd you gather that the time barrier was broken?

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Genis is so far beyond that...omniversal level telepathy, capable of killing Eternity, existence in every time period, self-resurrection, just to name a few.
then sentry must be quite uber to have stalemated him for a while. same with zemo /w/ moonstones.

no need to hype up genis so much


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Scenario 1: Marvel in a shitstomp.

Scenario 2: Marvel again, closer because of the no-BFR clause.


How would SS handle Supes 1M...or even Diana with her complete gear. I don't know much about genis, although didnt Bob stalemate the guy?


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Superman 1 m is too overpowered for this,and he didn't hold half a galaxy...he held a whole one for some time that was in forward motion towards another galaxy....its alot more then just ''holding it'',also how would they bfr him?he has a boomtube on him at all times.

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how'd you gather that the time barrier was broken?


It had stopped working. stick out tongue Also, I know you weren't the one who brought this up, but I'll say it here anyway: Supes 1M didn't punch through it while severely weakened per se. He used all the solar energy stored in his suit up to do what he did, and as a result was weakened because of it.

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then sentry must be quite uber to have stalemated him for a while. same with zemo /w/ moonstones.


Genis was holding back. (So was Sentry, though.)

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no need to hype up genis so much


It's all true. Genis is beyond Skyfather. At full potential he was bisecting space and time for a 500 km radius around him. He even collapsed the entire universe and restarted it in an instant. (This happens during House of M.) Genis also controls photons - meaning he controls the very thing which powers Supes 1M. He's capable of soloing anyone on either team. And in scenario 1 he can solo the entire Team 2 with a BFR to the Microverse.

You like going by feats. I respect that. Combat feat wise, Supes 1M has nothing on Genis. He had difficulty with a teenage AS Superman, got damaged by Krypto (IIRC?) before putting him down, needed the assistance of...3 other Supermen to even bind the Chronovore, and needed the help of dozens of other superheroes to put down Solaris - when AS Superman had essentially solo'd him.

That's not abstract-level power. Not even close. Genis is in an entirely different league. Especially with CIS being off in scenario 1. (I see you gave Marvel the win there, so I shouldn't keep harping on that, should I? lol)

Anywho - yeah.

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It had stopped working. stick out tongue Also, I know you weren't the one who brought this up, but I'll say it here anyway: Supes 1M didn't punch through it while severely weakened per se. He used all the solar energy stored in his suit up to do what he did, and as a result was weakened because of it.



Genis was holding back. (So was Sentry, though.)



It's all true. Genis is beyond Skyfather. At full potential he was bisecting space and time for a 500 km radius around him. He even collapsed the entire universe and restarted it in an instant. (This happens during House of M.) Genis also controls photons - meaning he controls the very thing which powers Supes 1M. He's capable of soloing anyone on either team. And in scenario 1 he can solo the entire Team 2 with a BFR to the Microverse.

You like going by feats. I respect that. Combat feat wise, Supes 1M has nothing on Genis. He had difficulty with a teenage AS Superman, got damaged by Krypto (IIRC?) before putting him down, needed the assistance of...3 other Supermen to even bind the Chronovore, and needed the help of dozens of other superheroes to put down Solaris - when AS Superman had essentially solo'd him.

That's not abstract-level power. Not even close. Genis is in an entirely different league. Especially with CIS being off in scenario 1. (I see you gave Marvel the win there, so I shouldn't keep harping on that, should I? lol)

Anywho - yeah. [/B]

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Your are like a song that they play on the radio over and over that no one likes.


That was a constructive post.



(I have no clue what you're talking about - no radio listening for me.)

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It had stopped working. stick out tongue Also, I know you weren't the one who brought this up, but I'll say it here anyway: Supes 1M didn't punch through it while severely weakened per se. He used all the solar energy stored in his suit up to do what he did, and as a result was weakened because of it.



Genis was holding back. (So was Sentry, though.)



It's all true. Genis is beyond Skyfather. At full potential he was bisecting space and time for a 500 km radius around him. He even collapsed the entire universe and restarted it in an instant. (This happens during House of M.) Genis also controls photons - meaning he controls the very thing which powers Supes 1M. He's capable of soloing anyone on either team. And in scenario 1 he can solo the entire Team 2 with a BFR to the Microverse.

You like going by feats. I respect that. Combat feat wise, Supes 1M has nothing on Genis. He had difficulty with a teenage AS Superman, got damaged by Krypto (IIRC?) before putting him down, needed the assistance of...3 other Supermen to even bind the Chronovore, and needed the help of dozens of other superheroes to put down Solaris - when AS Superman had essentially solo'd him.

That's not abstract-level power. Not even close. Genis is in an entirely different league. Especially with CIS being off in scenario 1. (I see you gave Marvel the win there, so I shouldn't keep harping on that, should I? lol)

Anywho - yeah. [/B]

By the time supes 1m tried punching through the timestream he had already lost almost all of his powers and was severely weakened.

This isn't insane genis so all that crap is irrelevant regular old genis is a high herald and photon is mid herald.

You can't bfr supes 1m he has a boomtube integrated into his suit.

If diffuculty is slapping him down with no effort and making a fool of as superman then sure he had a lot of diffuculty,he was never damaged by krypto,and one of those supermen was a 5d imp....it makes the chronovore strong not supes weak,needed their help?he didn't get there until the fight was over and he contained solaris when kyle was about to lose it...as superman soloed a solaris with no upgrades and who was made with 21st century technology,supes 1mill fought 853rd century technology upgraded solaris big difference.

Supes 1 mill could bind nearly anyone on team 1 with a force jacket like he did hourman,he is vastly the physical superior and has a dozen others powers and senses not to mention his force vision that could solo anyone on team 1,you then have I adapt to everything and the only thing that actually killed me was a force several orders of magnitude stronger than anyone on team 1 can use doomsday.

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Genis was never empowered before going insane or depowered after he regained his sanity.

Latest incarnation of Genis he had gotten stronger than before.


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