yeah tough call for a fanboy, hmm guy who can fight eternity vs guy who would get slaped by galactus hmmm yeah tough indeed. And why do you talk about dr strange like he's a chump i mean yeah i guess he is all he did was beat up on death, negate the odin force, if it wasnt for loki thor would have gotten beaten, strange also is an avatar of eternity, also fights dormammu guy who fought eternity remeber? Dr strange even defied the LT even though the LT is a chump i put him a little bit above eternity or equal to, point being dr strange with proper prep can beat even king thor.
Dormammu, like everyone else who rules a dimension in MU would be nigh-unbeatable in his own dimension. Outside he's proobably slightly more powerful than Surter (pure speculation, don't start wining) and RKT would probably win 7,8/10.
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Hard to take in his own dimension but outside rtk takes the majority Id say. Honestly its kinda hard to judge rtk right now, but remember one thing he broke the skien of the fates. Im hard pressed to believe Dormammu could do that. In fact its hard to believe almost anyone doing that. If you understand anything about norse mythology you can appreciate the gravity of that feat. Even Odin, surter and Ymir were subject to the fates. Obviously Thor wasnt.
so where did dormammu almost defeat eternity in or out of his dimension oh and i dont think it makes any diffrence if he is or out of his dimension i havent heard that his powers have any connection, i dont think he's like mephesto who has a connection to his dimension like that where he is super powerful there.
If Im not mistaken he dosnt even rule the dark dimension anymore, Clea does. Dormammus powers are directly related to worship of his followers. The more worship he recieves the more power he has. Id say since he dosnt have the worship of the dark dimension anymore his powers are somewhat less than they once were.
you did make it seem like strange was a chump did you not? like i said strange fended off death, also is a avatar of eternity which gives him a level of immortality, as well as defied the LT, sounds like PIS that he couldnt negate the odin force by himself why cause he's done other things that are just as big, fighting off death using major spells summening alot of power from the vishanti, and defieing LT who is equal to or a little bit above eternity, king thor doesnt come close to any of these feats.
Dr. Strange defeated Dormammu on more occasions, although it was known that Dormammu is far vastly more powerful than Dr. Strange.
Dr. Strange did far more as he was capable. He did more than he should on his own.
Something that should never happen, actully should never been even close to happen.
Why Marvel likes Dr. Strange to write him like that, I don't know. I mean, he is a ****ing joke to Living Tribunal, far...far less to LT than ant to human.
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and you think that thor stopping time is right? Since when is one earth skyfather who cant even hurt the celestials suppose to have power over all time that he can snap his fingers and reverse it he isnt even essential to the universe, and magic is the bipassing of natural laws its very hard but none the less possible to mess with the LT even if your just dr strange the LT isnt the spectre who is both cosmic and magic, he even fended LT off a little bit when they first met, strange did what he did with death cause he had to use major spells using alot of power of the vishanti, and when it came to dormammu i dont know what to tell you there are rules or something when they fight, none the less dormammu did fight eternity for a while thor shouldnt be able to do that even in thanos the end the skyfathers where like ants to the cosmics they asked the cosmics for help.
We dont have a lot of feats from Rune King Thor. We can all pretty well agree that the magic of the runes is very,very strong. Dr.Strange aside, Dormammu is a very powerful sorcerer but he's been defeated Many times by one not nearly as powerful as his self. Dormammu, though powerful is not a cosmic character, not in my opinion anyway. All we really have to go on for RTK is that he destroyed Mangon with a single word and defied the fates, broke thier skien and defied the ones who set above. The Odin force and Rune magic I believe is to much for Dormammu to handle.
Nope. I didn't think that Thanos was a chump when he lost to Odin and I wouldn't think Strange was a chump for losing to RKT. A character doesn't become a chump just because he/she isn't as powerful.
I think Dr. Strange is very powerful, but at best he's around Loki's level (or maybe a bit above) without outside help. He wasn't on the same level of power as King Thor let alone Rune King Thor.
No one knows the full extent of Rune King Thor's power. It seemed very high to me. I had the impression that Surtur was no longer a major challenge for him and it's fairly well established that Odin and Surtur are peers in power.
you obviously dont know stranges feats then, with prep he'd beat king thor, and dormammu was once gonna change the entire face of the world wasnt he? how is he not a near cosmic threat if he fought eternity? He doesnt get stronger if he's in his own dimension so there is no point in bringing up that defense.