It's just a shame 616 Wolverien has to face someone who's way above him in agility, reflexes, strength, and fighting skill(Spidey didn't learn any martial arts. He MADE HIS OWN STYLE by using his strength, agility, and flexibility work for him.)
While Wolverines not clumsy, slow, or weak by ANY means, and his fighting style is varied and all, but Spidey literally makes a living beating up people like him.
Although Ult. Wolvie wins because Ult. Spidey is still just a kid.
No, they're not that toned down. But in early Amazing Spider-Man issues, Parker kinda sucked then too. Doc Ock and others were "better" than him, and he'd only win over villians who are pushovers now because of plot devices and ingenuity. Over time (and they actually did a good job of this with Spidey) he got better, and gradually became the "I can dodge next-to-anything when I need to" wall-crawler we now know.
Ultimate SM still has more potential than Ultimate Wolverine (like in 616), but he sucks at fighting and properly using his pwoers right now. Logan would get a shot in and Spidey would go down. Give it 10 years, though, and this fight might end differently.
I think muffin man just tryed to say that NU spiderman is a better fighter then wolverine skill wise. I cant believe I just heard it but I think I did. I dont think in all my years on this comic forum have I heard a dumber statement, who clearly lack any knowledge of comics.
It's just a shame 616 Wolverien has to face someone who's way above him in agility, reflexes, strength, and fighting skill(Spidey didn't learn any martial arts. He MADE HIS OWN STYLE by using his strength, agility, and flexibility work for him.)
look he actauly said that spiderman is a better fighter then wolverine in fighting skill and he talken about normal universe one I can not believe how stupid muffin is.
Er, there's not much debate that SM is better in agility, reflexes, and strength...fighting skill is the only questionable one, but that makes Muffin Man right on at least 3/4. I'm not a math guy myself, but that seems like it wouldn't warrant a "wow he's stupid" response wol8888. Make sure you act with respect toward others, especially when it concerns your favorite character, since we're more prone to saying ignorant things when they are involved.
Yes but in early amazing spider-man, Spider-man was an average fighter that even though he wasnt brilliant he could still win a fight quite easily, ultimate spider-man seems to struggle with the most simple villains.
Eh, all I know is he got hit at least 5-6 times every issues for his first 50 issues or so in 616. That never happens anymore, except when there's something plot-induced. And someone mentioned the Enforcers giving Ultimate Spidey trouble. I seem to remember them beating up 616 Spidey the first time they met...by comparison, Ultimate Spidey's ahead of the curve. I'll try to find the issue...
yeah i know he lost, but when he went back he kicked the crap outta them, the main thing is even though he lost quite abit he went back for more with a plan or just over powerd them, ultimate spidey wallos in self pitty after a loss, then runs around like a spaz, and then wins by accident if you see what i mean, except in early ultimate spidey, where he fought doc ock and kingpin, now they were definatly awsome stories not filled with loads of crap and he could do summit useful, now he just whines alll the time, cause he looses or sumthing.
OK I was little harsh but spiderman is a level 3 in fighting skill and muffin tryed to say he more skilled then wolverine who 7 and might be most skilled fighter in marvel. come on thou spiderman has never ocne been know ever for beaing any were near top 20 let alone top 10 in fighting skill. aslo he was tlaken about normal unverse. u have to agree it sound quite bad see how spiderman is not a skilled fighter in the least. he good but u wouldent consider his skill any were near top 10. also the fighting skill diffrenc eis not questionable at all it a fact prue fighting skill wise spiderman NU stands no chance vs wolverine NU. I dont know who win in ultimate wolverine vs spiderman because they both suck next to UN
Last edited by wolverine8888 on Oct 5th, 2005 at 06:16 PM
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