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Zoom vs Superman Prime

All out fight...who wins?

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Prime kills him with one punch seriously

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Idk, Prime did beat Bart.


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Prime punches through Zoom's timeline


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Originally posted by Stunner2xx
Prime kills him with one punch seriously


He would have to hit him with that one punch.

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Idk, Prime did beat Bart.


Zoom > Bart Allen

Also, when did Prime defeat Bart? As I remember, when they meet, when Bart was the Flash, he sent Prime running, and every time they meet when Bart was Kid Flash, even during the recent "Legion of 3 World's" arc, Bart has either speed blitzed, or put Prime down whenever they meet.

No wonder, Prime is scared shitless whenever he sees Bart.


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Prime FTW..no speedster can beat Prime..

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Prime FTW..no speedster can beat Prime..


Tell, that to Bart Allen, sending him running.


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what??when did Bart ever beat Prime??he is scared of speedster..but that doesn't mean a speedster can beat him no expression

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what??when did Bart ever beat Prime??he is scared of speedster..but that doesn't mean a speedster can beat him no expression


An example is during Infinite Crisis, when Bart Allen was smacking him around and sent him running.

The Flash's are a lot more than simple speedsters.

Wally West would put beat Prime by the way.


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An example is during Infinite Crisis, when Bart Allen was smacking him around and sent him running.

The Flash's are a lot more than simple speedsters.

Wally West would put beat Prime by the way.


he went to Oa to destroy it..not running away..he just don't want to waste his time with them anymore..

Wally can't beat Prime..he can BFR him..but he can't beat Prime..

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he went to Oa to destroy it..not running away..he just don't want to waste his time with them anymore..

Wally can't beat Prime..he can BFR him..but he can't beat Prime..


Bart Allen was smacking him around, and then said he was road kill. Prime yells, no, then flies away. I would call that running away. He also did something similar in "Legion of the 3 World's".

Wally West can beat Prime. He would beat Prime in my opinion if Bart Allen is any indication.

We will continute this later. I have to go now.


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Zoom > Bart Allen

Also, when did Prime defeat Bart? As I remember, when they meet, when Bart was the Flash, he sent Prime running, and every time they meet when Bart was Kid Flash, even during the recent "Legion of 3 World's" arc, Bart has either speed blitzed, or put Prime down whenever they meet.

No wonder, Prime is scared shitless whenever he sees Bart.

You act as if Bart Allen defeat Prime all by himself. He had help from Jay, Wally, Barry, Max, and Johnny Quick. It was a shared feat. Prime knocked out Bart in LO3W along with IOn and a couple of other heroes.


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You act as if Bart Allen defeat Prime all by himself. He had help from Jay, Wally, Barry, Max, and Johnny Quick. It was a shared feat. Prime knocked out Bart in LO3W along with IOn and a couple of other heroes.


When did he knock out Bart Allen in that arc? He never managed to knock out Bart Allen. The closest he came to that, is when he killed Kinetix, and she exploded, and Bart Allen was caught in the explosion, but even then he wasn't down and out.

All they did was battle field remove him. That was the first tactic they tried. They should have kicked his ass instead. Less hassle.


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Bart Allen was smacking him around, and then said he was road kill. Prime yells, no, then flies away. I would call that running away. He also did something similar in "Legion of the 3 World's".

Wally West can beat Prime. He would beat Prime in my opinion if Bart Allen is any indication.

We will continute this later. I have to go now.


as i said before..Prime running away doesn't mean Bart can beat him..he just hate speedster..in LO3W..Prime beat bart and some other dude down the cave and they were KO for a moment if i remember correctly..

what can Wally do to Prime??the only way i see him winning is making Prime stop moving..but CIS is on..Wally won't use that..and this thread is about Zoom..not Wally or Bart..why the hell am i talking about Wally..

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When did he knock out Bart Allen in that arc? He never managed to knock out Bart Allen. The closest he came to that, is when he killed Kinetix, and she exploded, and Bart Allen was caught in the explosion, but even then he wasn't down and out.

All they did was battle field remove him. That was the first tactic they tried. They should have kicked his ass instead. Less hassle.

They can't hurt him. He was killing people left and right. Bart was punching him none stop and nothing.
He did knock him out. Top right panel
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as i said before..Prime running away doesn't mean Bart can beat him..he just hate speedster..in LO3W..Prime beat bart and some other dude down the cave and they were KO for a moment if i remember correctly..


No his scared shitless of speedsters, and Bart had the upper-hand every time they meet in that issue as I recall. I never saw him beat Bart Allen. I saw Bart Allen and others chasing over ice after Prime, then a few pages later, they randomly drop in on Braniac and the others. At best that was an off panel win for Prime.

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what can Wally do to Prime??the only way i see him winning is making Prime stop moving..but CIS is on..Wally won't use that..and this thread is about Zoom..not Wally or Bart..why the hell am i talking about Wally..


Why wouldn't Wally West use speed stealing if CIS is on? That's the first thing he tried on Zoom when he encountered him, and he didn't even know him. Wally West knows how dangerous Prime is. He can do a lot more than simply steal his speed. Hell, Bart was about to turn him into road kill with a few punches at super speed, and that was Bart during his non impressive run. Wally West gained Bart's power on top of his own, which was already enough to one shot someone apparently as tough as the Man of Steel or casually hit with the force of a White Dwarf Star. Prime better run for the hills (Which would be to no avail.) if he faces a pissed of Wally West with all of his powers.


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They can't hurt him. He was killing people left and right. Bart was punching him none stop and nothing.
He did knock him out. Top right panel
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They sure can. When Bart turned him bloody with a few super fast blows, and he ran away, he sure hurt him. Wally West is superior and has actually used his entire mass reaching towards Infinity thing with his punches. Jay Garrick might not be able to hurt him, but Wally West would sure be able to.

When did you see him knock him out?

I never saw him beat Bart Allen. I saw Bart Allen and chasing over ice after Prime, then a few pages later, they randomly drop in on Braniac and the others. At best that was an off panel win for Prime, which who knows what could have happened. Whenever they meet on panel, Bart Allen ran circles around him, both literally and figuratively.


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Bart with the help of many other superheroes...still failed to put Prime down in LO3W...what does that tells you???he can hit Prime as much as he want..it won't do shit to Prime..

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Bart with the help of many other superheroes...still failed to put Prime down in LO3W...what does that tells you???he can hit Prime as much as he want..it won't do shit to Prime..


I believe his only faced Prime twice in that arc and attacked him. Once he ran circles around him and threw a few super fast punches (Quality over quantity I say. He didn't use his abilities like Wally would, and he doesn't have the raw power he did as the Flash.). The next time, he created a vortex and dropped him. That was as Kid Flash. As Flash he almost turned him into road kill. I never said Bart as Kid Flash would put down Prime with those level of punches. I'm talking about Wally West in the first place. Pay attention.


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punches from the Flash could never put Prime down..it may do some damage..but too KO Prime..nah..impossible..like i said before...unless Flash BFR or make Prime stop moving..there's no way any Flash can beat Prime..

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