Just to make it clear, Shin Akuma is just a character in the video games who represents Akuma's actual power, because the playable Akuma is a toned down version. Shin translates into "True", get the picture?
Second, how much prep time? Could make a big difference, if you give Bats enough time he'll just realize that Akuma won't fight them if they won't fight back. He has nothing to gain from them.
Hey Nakatu, we, who know Street Figther knew that, Akuma doesn't become Shin Akuma. Akuma IS Shin Akuma, except that he holds back punches and uses only a small percent of his power. Batman can't win this.
It's completely plausible for Batman to win, I'm sure with enough prep time he'd find SOME way to defeat them. Course, that could take a VERY long time.
Actully no, Ryu will never become Evil Ryu anymore.
A major point of Ryu's SFA3 storyline is that he could follow
the path to warrior perfection without giving in to the Satsu no Hadou.
Even though Evil Ryu was really high up back then, the reason regular Ryu is on the same tier (he achieved that level in SFA3) is due to Ryu's revelations since then. He has now managed to reach what he could have been had he given. Generally shown by Ryu promptly telling Akuma that Satsu no Hadou is not the way in SF3.
Ryu is already pwoerful as Evil Ryu. Ryu is Evil Ryu as Akuma is Shin Akuma, sorta. Ryu IS Evil Ryu. Evil Ryu is when Ryu wants to win at all costs and thus is willing to KILL just to win. However, in the actual storyline, there was only one time that Ryu got this desperate, and that was at the end of SF1, so that was the only time that 'Evil Ryu' existed.
Ryu finally decided after going through M.
Bison's brainwashing that doesn't really care for killing others and
proving his superiority over everyone. He just wants to be the best that he can be. Obsessively so. This is why he so looks forward to future matches with Ken, Sagat. He doesn't want to crush them. He
just wants to test his skills and improve himself. From than on, when he ultimately gave up on Evil Ryu for good, Akuma too sees Ryu's potential, and now believes Ryu will someday reach it even without the Satsu no Hadou and eagerly awaits that day so he can have a worthy opponent.
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As a note, Akuma does NOT believe Ryu's way of not embracing the Satsui no hadou. Ryu beat Akuma once in the games, but since then Akuma has mastered a new self taught move; Kongou Kokuretsu Zan, also called the Misogi.
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This move creates tidal waves, split Ayer's rock, and can kill an opponent in one blow. He is determined to show Ryu that Ansatsuken's true nature is it's most powerful nature.
But these are the video game characters, the current canon comic is much, much different.
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The misogi is great and hurts like hell, on SF3 and the Capcom vs. transports, in this situation he deems them as worthy for whatever reason, and wolverine may last from 1 misogi .
wrong , ryu never won against akuma yet , he is training for that , in the story he defeated a hurted akuma(he fought gen before) but when he had knocked akuma he just stood up and said that ryu could evolve a lot more if he become part of the dark hadou , but ryu refused that as we can see in the sta movie , and shin means divine in japanese.
My opnion is that akuma would kill all of them very quick , except for wolverine , that akuma has already fouth him , of course he won but he reconigzed him as not being weak(different from recognising from being worthy)
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True yet, in the alpha scenario, ryu and Akuma showed their true potenial and went all out, Dark or Evil ryu won. But i'm betting you and everyone else would say akuma should win anyway for that scenario, not this one.
Ryu beat Akuma once. Akuma became much more powerful, and they have yet to fight again.
Your opinion means diddly squat because you can't name exact comic numbers, exact events, exact ANYTHING. Shut up and go away, I'm tired of all you Akuma fanboys just rambling about smashing mountains, it was Ayer's rock. He didn't split the ocean with energy blasts, he used Misogi. He destroyed Ryu's little island thing. He supposedly destroyed a submarine while training on the bottom of the ocean.
Actully it's cannon that Akuma believes he will reach his potetnial without Stsu No Hadou as does Oro. Many fights in games isn't canon, but there fights that are cannon (like Akuma killinh Mi. Bison, the fight between Akuma and Ryu, Akuma tells Ryu to awaken pwoer, in SFA3 Ryu tells he won't and since than, Akuma belieeve Ryu even without Satsu No hado will reach his potetnail and a worhty opponent that Akuma waits as he Ryu achieved in Street Fighter Alpha cartoon). I think in manga, the story will be the same, he will resit and final resist Dark Hadou, overcoming. Actully it's not that much different. And Gouken in manga said to Ryu he must achieve his power by mastering it, not to succumb by it, like Akuma, here Ryu shows he has greater inner pwoer than Akuma.
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Where in Alpha cartoon, there is no evil Ryu anymore, he overcomed it, and became even more powerful. In the end (Ryu tells him, he is not walking the same path as Akuma), they jump, and it's end, Ryu with one finger when he jump, breaks that big stone (I don't know how to call it) in pieces. In Street Fighter Generations we will see the fight, which comes in October.
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