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Caps Conscience
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Arrow Dr. Manhattan Vs. Galactus

Well, what do you shmucks think of this one?


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I think Galactus curbstomps.


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Dr. Manhattan could chase off a starving or even mildly hungry Galactus but he won't be able to stop a well fed Galactus. At the same time I'm not sure if Galactus could actually kill him. He seems to be a mental being more than anything, a sentient force that takes the form of a naked blue man.


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Originally posted by Omega Vision
Dr. Manhattan could chase off a starving or even mildly hungry Galactus but he won't be able to stop a well fed Galactus. At the same time I'm not sure if Galactus could actually kill him. He seems to be a mental being more than anything, a sentient force that takes the form of a naked blue man.


Isn't Manhattan at heart an energy being? I would classify more as that than a mental being, but I can see the argument for either or. If tachyon pulses were able to temporarily derail Manhattan someone with the Power Cosmic on Galactus' scale should be able to disperse him for a BFR or somehow even absorb him or something.


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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Isn't Manhattan at heart an energy being? I would classify more as that than a mental being, but I can see the argument for either or. If tachyon pulses were able to temporarily derail Manhattan someone with the Power Cosmic on Galactus' scale should be able to disperse him for a BFR or somehow even absorb him or something.

Energy is inherently meaningless, it refers to the numbers and symbols scientists use to express the ability to accomplish work/motion. He isn't an energy being so much as a mental force, a disembodied consciousness stretched across time and space that most likely through great concentration and effort managed to anchor himself in a localized sphere of space-time (20th century Earth) through the use of a body that is most likely comprised of some kind of energy shield. Sure Galactus could destroy one body but Manhattan will come back again and again and again and again. G could kill him but it would probably entail using the UN to erase the universe (thus ensuring Manhattan's destruction) and recreate it without him.

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wut if Galactus just feed of him (a bit like he did with Hyperstorm) that outa finish him for good right?

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wut if Galactus just feed of him (a bit like he did with Hyperstorm) that outa finish him for good right?

That's possible but if you read my post and understood my interpretation that wouldn't finish him for good since the energy his form is comprised of is independent of his consciousness and he'll still be alive. Hence the failure of subtracting his intrinsic field putting him down for good which would be the same as absorbing his body.

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um yeah but if its just his conciousness floatin around w/o a body then thats kinda like...death aint it? evil face

btw how do u know if he can create a new body (not just reform) if his bodys COMPLETLY destroyed???

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um yeah but if its just his conciousness floatin around w/o a body then thats kinda like...death aint it? evil face

how do u know if he can create a new body (not just reform) if his bodys COMPLETLY destroyed???

it counts as a forum win yes but I'm saying I don't think G can kill Doc for good without the UN.

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it counts as a forum win yes but I'm saying I don't think G can kill Doc for good without the UN.
i ment permenent death wink

cos we dunno if dr Minidick can create a new body if hes killed!
he can reform if hes blast to atoms (then his bodys still there only scatter), but return from death is somethin else. if he could do that then that woud make him like mr Immortal or somethin

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Generally, Galactus. Dr. Manhattan, for all of his understanding of matter and energy, would be much like a child compared to Galactus, and similar beings (even Darkseid, in some respects). If G were in a weakened condition, that would be a different story, of course...

I do agree with Omega Vision on the point of him being more a mental being than a purely physical one, as such; Galactus could drain his energy, or even "devour" him out-right, but that *might* not be the end of Manhattan... I could seem him re-forming at a later time.


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i ment permenent death wink

cos we dunno if dr Minidick can create a new body if hes killed!
he can reform if hes blast to atoms (then his bodys still there only scatter), but return from death is somethin else. if he could do that then that woud make him like mr Immortal or somethin

He came back from such a death twice. He is immortal. What don't you get about that?

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Generally, Galactus. Dr. Manhattan, for all of his understanding of matter and energy, would be much like a child compared to Galactus, and similar beings (even Darkseid, in some respects). If G were in a weakened condition, that would be a different story, of course...

I do agree with Omega Vision on the point of him being more a mental being than a purely physical one, as such; Galactus could drain his energy, or even "devour" him out-right, but that *might* not be the end of Manhattan... I could seem him re-forming at a later time.

I could see him coming back instantaneously. He can create a seemingly infinite number of clones of himself.

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Galactus ftw.


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Originally posted by Omega Vision
I could see him coming back instantaneously. He can create a seemingly infinite number of clones of himself.


He would only come back "instantly" if he were already matter/energy co-located to begin with; otherwise, I could see a being like Galactus having a very powerful affect on Manhattan, one that isn't necessarily mitigated easily. (Though, again, if Galactus were weakened, that would change things: he would, in this particular example, be less of an abstract being and something closer to what Dr.M could manipulate outright.)


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He came back from such a death twice. He is immortal. What don't you get about that?
wut i dont get is where u get that from lol

hes been disintagrated into subatomic particle or w/e, but (afaik) never completely destroyed where nothins left cept for his conciousness (cos thats wut gonna happen if Galactus drains him)


issue #?

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He would only come back "instantly" if he were already matter/energy co-located to begin with;
yup that wut i ment to say

OV says hes come back from more then that but ima ask issue # where this happen

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wut i dont get is where u get that from lol

hes been disintagrated into subatomic particle or w/e, but (afaik) never completely destroyed where nothins left cept for his conciousness (cos thats wut gonna happen if Galactus drains him)


issue #?

yup that wut i ment to say

OV says hes come back from more then that but ima ask issue # where this happen

Umm dude having his intrinsic field subtracted is exactly what that is: being reduced to his consciousness alone. Issue 1 and Issue 12 I believe are when he is shown being destroyed and both times he returns, in the second instance almost immediately.

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lol @ people who don't think that Galactus could kill manhattan.


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lol @ people who don't think that Galactus could kill manhattan.

Short of UN I don't think he can kill something that is that abstract. He can destroy Doc's physical form no problem but that won't stop him for good.

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Umm dude having his intrinsic field subtracted is exactly what that is: being reduced to his consciousness alone.
oh

so basicly hes like an abstract? huh

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