The ruby of Cytorrak wouldnt really prove to be benificial to Pre C Supes. He's stronger than Juggenaut anyway plus his invulnerability level was really high anyway. At most it would make him more durable but as Galactus is more powerful than Cytorrak he could negate the effects of the ruby and Galactus can annihilate Pre C Supes anyway so Galactus wins with ease.
Unless Superman did his instant universal hop all the way to The Sword of Superman and became a completely omnipotent aspect of God, as was his destiny, which he could achieve any time he wanted.
Or he could hypnotize G with his belt.
Or build an ultimate nullifier, that's basic work for a guy who makes shit up.
Pre Crisis Supes was written at various levels he had some awfully low showings some really high ones but at the end of the day he could never beat Pre C DS in a one on one showdown. Galactus was Marvels equivalent of Pre Crisis DS at the time Kirby who was writing for both of them in the 70's said their power levels were equal. Based on that Galactus would win. Also remember J that the threadmaker has stated what weapons supes has the sword of truth and/or the ultimate nullifier arent included.
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Well, full power Darkseid is equal to full power Galactus, but that isn't the case in this scenario, as there is no alluding towards him being in full range of power anywhere in the thread, so I'm left to assume it's 'average showing Galactus', in which case, things like this seem very plausible ways of besting him--
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And of course, we all know Superman has indirect but near complete control over time and space as if it meant nothing to him. He could even possibly vibrate Galactus' form by touching him fast enough that he travels into entropy.
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Are we discussing DEFEATING Galactus- similar to what Krona did. [Although Krona actually completely destroyed his form rather than just beating him.]
Or are we talking about can Pre Crisis Superman break down reality as a whole?
As a high level cosmic you cant really dissect a battle like that as you can with street levellers. However based on him being ridiculously more powerful than Pre C Supes and the fact that that version of supes despite his high showings could never beat DS id say Galactus has this in the bag.
Ah, but Krona killed him, and at the end of the series, he formed a new being. These are called avatars. It's also been mentioned that Galactus is beyond his physical form hasn't it? And that his physical form is just how people inside the universe percieve him?
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the Darkseid = Galactus arguement is nearly irrifutible. Why ruin my fun?
I like debating with you. Come up with another thread and i'll see you there. 
