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Can the Xmen from X3 movie defend helms Deep

These are the 6 xmen that were defending the Alcatraz base at the end of the film. They have the battle experience from that battle, so Iceman and Kitty have experience one. They are rested from that battle and are teleported to defend Helms Deep from the Two Towers. The Elves that helped defend Helms Deep are replaced by the Xmen. How does this battle play out?

1. Storm

2. Colossus

3. Ice man

4. Kitty

5. Beast

6. Wolverine

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are they the only ones defending it


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All you need is Storm and Cyclops at the top of the gates, and thi's last maybe a couple of hours, maybe.


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how many could colossus take before he's taken out?

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All you need is Storm and Cyclops at the top of the gates, and thi's last maybe a couple of hours, maybe.
all they need is phoenix and thats it


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how many could colossus take before he's taken out?
depends who hes fighting


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I'm not remembering Two Towers very well but I don't see much they could do to Colossus short of trying to land a giant boulder on him. Eventually he might be overwhelmed.


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They can definitely do it. Iceman builds a gigantic ice maze around Helms Deep for MILES.

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Storm flies up in the sky to see visual. Colossus bulldozes a large trench around Helms deep after the large ice enclosure.

They'll never even get to Helms Deep. Eventually, the six mutants will mow all those orcs down.


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there really no reason why logan or colossus could not take this them selfs

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6 mutants are suppose to stop this...

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Honestly the movie version did seem that powerful. Given the numbers they are up against I see them being overpowered eventually.


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Wolverine couldn't take 10,000 Orakai What the f**k?


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can they survive a massive flood accompanied by lightning strikes and ice blasts? or mulitple tornadoes...but there are alot of them...I'd like to see this battle...

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Wolverine couldn't take 10,000 Orakai What the f**k?

Movie Wolverine? 10,000? No, he can't.


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all they need is phoenix and thats it


Well, Phoenix ain't here, so you gotta work with who is.

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Honestly the movie version did seem that powerful. Given the numbers they are up against I see them being overpowered eventually.


Well, it's not entirely improbable. Take Storm, have her whip up some tornadoes, some lighting all over the place, etc. Have Cyclops go without visors, mow down whatever of Saruman's forces Storm doesn't get. And, just keep the rest on reserve (like you'd really need them anyway, they'd just be in the way.

Storm and Cyclops may burn out at some point, but they sure as hell take down plenty before they fall.


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Movie versions? I would be hesitant to put both Beast & Wolverine up front with Colossus & Kitty...

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X-men would get overwhelmed, but they would take out a huge number of enemies first.


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I know in comics Cyclops runs out of juice so maybe the movie version does too. Storm and Cyclops take out a alot of them before they tire out. Wolverine and Beast will get their share also. If Colossus grabs a giant log or something and swings it he can take alot of also. Swords and arrows will bounce off him.

I don't know if the X-men fight smart they can pull it off.


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Well, Phoenix ain't here, so you gotta work with who is.



Well, it's not entirely improbable. Take Storm, have her whip up some tornadoes, some lighting all over the place, etc. Have Cyclops go without visors, mow down whatever of Saruman's forces Storm doesn't get. And, just keep the rest on reserve (like you'd really need them anyway, they'd just be in the way.

Storm and Cyclops may burn out at some point, but they sure as hell take down plenty before they fall.


Cyclops isn't in the line up. wink

The problem I see with Storm (and even Cyke for that matter) is the fact they would be physically vulnerable if they were focused on offensive attacks. I mean they'd have thousands of arrow coming in from almost 180 degrees and all it takes is one lucky hit. Maybe it's just me but the movie version of Storm just hasn't seemed that powerful (at least compared to the comic version). I mean wtf was that spinning around crap she was doing in the third movie? She had trouble defending herself from a single (albeit very fast) opponent. So I have my doubts about her defensive ability.


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Uhh, negative. There is a big difference between "Can these 6 X-men eventually kill a million uruk's?" and "Can they defend helm's deep?"

Eventually some Uruk's will make it into helms deep's walls, and at that point, the game is over. The failed to defend Helm's Deep. See the difference?

Now, could they take that many Uruks? Probably. They couldn't do ANYTHING to colossus. Wolverine would eventually be put down, but Kitty could just phase through them, ripping their hearts from their body as she does. Ice man could ice up and be invulnerable, and then take them down with relative ease. Beast would eventually be in the same boat as wolverine. Storm...as long as she stays out of the way, could wreak havok.

Hmm..I would say Colossus could do it alone. Kitty could do it alone. Ice man may be able to. Storm could as long as they had something to distract them. Eventually one of their arrows may get through, considering they'll have so many chances. Wolverine and Beast could take tons of them, but eventually would still be put down.


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Re: Can the Xmen from X3 movie defend helms Deep

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These are the 6 xmen that were defending the Alcatraz base at the end of the film. They have the battle experience from that battle, so Iceman and Kitty have experience one. They are rested from that battle and are teleported to defend Helms Deep from the Two Towers. The Elves that helped defend Helms Deep are replaced by the Xmen. How does this battle play out?

1. Storm

2. Colossus

3. Ice man

4. Kitty

5. Beast

6. Wolverine


they did actually defend helms deep but the x women kept turning frodo down so he altered the facts when he wrote his lord of the rings book.


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