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Hoo - nice teams. Looking quickly, I'd probably say Team 1 takes it. Is it just a fight? In other words, does Batman have his whole bag of tricks with him?
I reckon Cap can take Bat (Bat admitted as much, in a crossover somewhere, I dunno if it was canon or not) and Spiderman will wipe Wolverine off the board, if the fight goes according to common sense, instead of according to "my favourite can beat your favourite".
However, I suspect Black Panther can take DD (althoiugh that's arguable) and between IF and Cage I'm not sure...
[B]Team 1: Captain America, Dare Devil, Luke Cage, and Spiderman
Team 2: Iron Fist, Black Panther, Batman, and Wolverine
Each team would have a different strategy as to matchups in order to maximize their strengths.
Team 1's strategy: Captain America would take on Wolverine since he has the shield to protect himself from Wolverine's claws. Dare Devil would take on Batman. Spiderman would take Black Panther. Luke Cage would take Iron Fist.
Team 2's strategy: Wolverine would take Luke Cage since he's the only one who could really hurt him. Batman would take on DD. Iron Fist would take Captain America. And Black Panther would take on Spiderman.
So, which team would win might depend on which team can get the most favorable matchups.
For those saying team 1 will win, remember that Wolverine is going to be hard to take down (his healing ability, fighting ability and general ferocity will present a big problem for whoever he's fighting), Black Panther is going to be able to fight anybody on team 1, Batman can prob hold his own against Dare Devil, and Iron Fist is a great fighter who can hold his own amongst these awesome heroes. I think neither team will win easily, it will be a long drawn out battle.
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I think Spiderman gives team 1 a slightly bigger edge than Wolverine gives team 2. Spiderman, I would argue, can take out anyone on team 2, while Wolverine would not necessarily be able to take out Captain America.
Wolverine would probably have to target Cage for team 2 - although, come to think of it, would Batman be able to take out Cage with a knockout gas or something? Captain America might be the best strategist in the world, but both BP and Batman are geniuses, and they both like their toys (and BOY, do they have cool toys!).
These are really good teams...
If I were team 1, I would have Spiderman take out Batman HARD and FAST. With all his toys, he is potentially a bigger threat than any of his other team members...
They'd just pummel him into submission. Especially since the rest of his team will go down one-by-one. That just adds to the roster of those who KO Wolverine.
Well, only one person can take on Wolverine. I mean, wolverine's team isn't going to just stand around and watch him get creamed. When the battle begins, it will become a 4 way matchup, so everyone is going to be busy and no one is going to be able to gang up on others. I created the teams to be fairly balanced so that the matchups should last quite awhile.
Team 1's Strategy:
Captain America vs. Wolverine: 5/10. Which means they can stalemate each other long enough.
Daredevil vs. Batman: Daredevil.
Spider-Man vs. Black Panther: Spider-Man.
Luke Cage vs. Iron Fist: I honestly don't know what kind of damage IF would do to Cage, so I'll leave this one at 5/10 for both.
Team 2's Strategy:
Wolverine vs. Luke Cage: Does Wolvie have the strength to cut Cage? I think that's still debatable.
Daredevil vs. Batman: Daredevil again.
Iron Fist vs. Captain America: Captain America, but just barely.
Black Panther vs. Spider-Man: Spidey again.
After any of Team 1's members defeats their assigned opponent (and they will), they can go help out whoever is fighting Wolverine. Wolvie's not as much a factor in this fight as you would want to believe.
Wow, our opinions clash so much that I don't know where to start. Well, firstly, Black Panther could use his antimetal gadgets to break down Cap's shield easily. Without the shield Cap loses to every single member of Team 2 and it only takes a few second to render the shield useless.
Daredevil wouldn't take out Bats who has his basic equipments with him. He simply can't take a majority against Batman who knows his weakness and has utilities to abuse it.
After Black Panther destroys Cap's shield, he could stalemate Spiderman for a long, long time and Wolverine meanwhile keeps Luke busy. Soon Batman beats DD and shieldless Cap falls against Ironfist. Then you have two 2 vs 1 fights.
Of course, that's just a possibility to show you that Team 2 has a chance if they play it smart and they sure as hell do play it smart.
Team 1 wins. All else aside these guys have all worked together many times before plus they have Captain America leading them and coming up with strategies. Team 1 wins cause of their much superior teamwork
Team 1 wins.
Without PIS, we have seen Spiderman either defeat or humiliate Wolverine(Marvel Team Up, Secret Wars). In Spiderman vs. Wolverine, it was definately PIS. Besides, the later majority shows that if SvW wasn't PIS, it only happened once out of three, and he didn't even win in SvW.
I reckon that Luke Cage beats Iron Fist. Nice match, but there isn't too much he can do to Powerman.
Black Panther vs. Captain America would be the next fight. In that case, I would give the majority to Captain America, and if not, Spiderman can help him out. So either way, there is a good chance of winning for Steve.
Finally, it's Batman vs. Daredevil. I would say that Batman wins 6/10. I don't really like the character(in fact, he is very annoying), but he is probably too much for the blind crusader.
So then, it's Batman vs. Captain America(who is now weaker than normal) and Spiderman. In which case, Spiderman wins alone pretty quickly.
I think personally while Captain America is a great leader, Batman is much smarter. He will figure out the optimal matchups for his team and tell them to follow it.
Team 2's optimal matchups:
Batman versus DD: DD uses his hearing to see. Batman is smart enough to realize after a bit of fighting to create someway to mess with DD's sonar (create noise with an exploding batarang, gas pellet, etc) and will triump over DD.
Black Panther versus Captain America: Panther knows how good Cap is so he won't underestimate him. He knows how well Cap uses his shield, so there won't be any surprise attacks like that. With his intelligence, fighting prowess, and suit he can certainly hold his own if not defeat Captain America.
Iron Fist versus Luke Cage: IF knows Cage better than the others. He knows that Cage is a hothead and while Cage may be stronger, IF just needs to wait for the right moment to get that critical strike to put Cage out. If he does, he wins. If he doesn't, then he'll face a tough battle.
Wolverine versus Spiderman: Spiderman is more agile and faster, but nobody is more fierce than Wolverine, and he's had experience versus alot tougher foes than Spidey and come through. With his adamantium skeleton and incredible healing, there's really little spidey can do to seriously damage him, while Spidey will prob tire before Wolverine and Wolverine will go in for the death strike when he smells Spidey's weakness.
I'm not suggesting team 2 will take this as a cakewalk, but it certainly can win.
But on the other side he's a lot easier to take out. A Spidey or Cage serious punch to the face will flat out kill Bats. Wolvie is another story though. Spidey can suffocate Wolvie though and Cage could throw Wolvie very far from the fight. Team 1 for the win Nah. Batman is smarter in a "have him do my taxes" sense, but in a tactical sense Cap is second to none. Batman might possibly be equal in that sense, but not better. Cap's a man that gods listen to for a reason.
well, on the otherhand, a stab from wolverine's blades or Panther's daggers can easily kill DD, Spidey or Captain America. Batman also knows all the pressure points so that'll help him compensate for his strength (but he's gonna be matched up against DD anyways, so that doesn't come to play)
I doubt spidey could suffocate Wolverine and Cage cannot throw Wolverine very far from the battle.
If batman defeats DD quickly, it'll be a 4 on 3 in favor of team 2.
You know how strong Cage is now? And yeah Spidey could just web Wolvies hands up in a way that he can't use the claws well & then web his face up. Wolvie's face up. The odds of those things you speak of hitting DD, Spidey or Cap are very low though. (Especially for Spidey & DD) Speed kills & a "Gonna kill you" Spidey will knock of limbs or heads for people like Iron fist or Bats.
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