Bruenor is the weak link on the team, regardless of how much of a badass he is. He has lots of heart, and will probably gravely wound one of the turtles (or kill for that matter), but he relies a lot on being able to take hits. Not being used to the skill level of the Turtles, he leaves himself open for an attack that'd put him down unexpectedly.
Regardless, I take the Companions of the Hall at least 8-9/10
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Agreed. Bruenor is great in mauls, thanks to his armour, but I think he will be too slow for the turtles, although he could probably do something like take a turtle out by impaling himself on a sword (and perhaps even surviving).
Drizzt I would probably back against even two turtles (although maybe not, Entreri kept him quite occupied).
But yeah, I think even leaving Bruenor out (and maybe substituting with Gwuen! - although that will probably be overkill ) the Companions would be able to take it.
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Bruenor the weak link? Are you out of your mind? He been said by the author that he really nto sure if Drizzt would defeat Bruenor. Bruenor allows hi9m self to take hits to open up his opponets, however if he does not think he can take the hit he blocks it. The only time you see Bruenor taking a lot of hits is when he extremely out numbered. If any thing Bruenor would be the hardest one to take down. He be hard to wound not to mention his stamina is superhuman. He a lot faster then you think as well. He also far far more skilled then you give him credit. He one of the most skilled fighters in the realm.
Tour talking about a guy with 200 years of fighting experience. Bruenor knows what he can and can’t take. If any thing the turtles will make the mistake into thinking Bruenor can take a hit and then get cut in haft for it. You are seriously underestimating Bruenor the best fighter in his Clan.
Your talking about a guy who has fought many Drow at ounce with out taking a hit. Your talking about a guy who took a spider version of a Drow who was far faster then a drow and stronger and still manage to deflex knifes thrown at him by jaraxle.
Your talking about a guy who was able to block a magical heavy cross bolt after it had been shot and he was only a few feet a way.
You people realy underestimate Bruenor. If any thing the week link would be Wulfgar and Catt. Both of which would get beat down by Bruenor with little to no effort.
Drizzt= Bruenor just different styles and abilities
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Yeah, I know, you and I disagree about Bruenor.
I think he's a great king, a mighty warrior and an excellent leader, but I'd rather back Pent against the Turtles than Bruenor. Pent wouldn't even need any help!
I know you will disagree - I still say Bruenor wouldn't stand a chance against Drizzt - but that's just my opinion!
yes and your opnion is not reflexed by the author.
pent good, but bruenor or drizzt would defeat him. Hell bruenor and Drizzt both stated that Wulfgar woudl defeat Pwent.
Also both Bruenor and Drizzt have defeat Wulfgar with little to no effort.
You like many other really underestimate Bruenor and the whole conspet of his character.
He lead's by demenstration. He leads, becuase he is the best and that why they call him a dwarfs dwarf. He not just king, by blood he king by skill and deed that is why he so beloved.
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Yah, I know, and I am not disagreeing with either you or the author - I m just saying in my opinion, my personal opinion, Drizzt, if it came to a real battle to the death between him and B, would kill B.
I am not expecting anybody to agree with me - it is a personal conclusion I came to based on the fact that I think Drizzt is faster, more agile and more adaptable in battle - and that I believe he will be able to find weak spots in B's defence and armour, long before B will be able to land a blow on him.
I certainly don't expect to convince you - I have decided that I am going to try and respect people's opinions, as long as they respect mine - and as long as they aren't idiots!
For me, in accordance with my world view, D has all the advantages. He is taller, therefore has better reach, he is used to fighting alone, while B is usually in the middle of a group (and yes, I know he has solo'ed missions - I just think Drizzt actually does better at solo missions). D is also faster, more agile - and he is probably the best sword-fighter in the realm.
Bruenor, (again, in my personal view) would be too weighed down by his armour - the armour will slow him down and tire him out, and Drizzt will exploit the tiniest hole. B won't be able to hit D, in my opinion, as D is too fast.
The only way B wil win, IMO, is if they put the two of them in a cage, with no spave to dodge and roll, and even then I would suggest making it an unarmed battle, because D will be very quick to slash an artery or seomething eevn more fatal.
But like I said, I am not gonne argue with you - if you and the athor wanna believe that B stands a chance of defeating D - you're welcome!
I used to sit down with Bob Salvatore for lunch every time he comes into town. The Drizzt series are easily on the top and top of my favorite books, so I've kept in touch with the author, and gone to lots of his little sessions he does when he goes on book tours, and of course topics like this come up all the time.
If you were to have Drizzt and Bruenor fight off in a match like this, Drizzt comes up the victor 10/10. Bruenor has mentioned that Drizzt's hands move too fast for him to track, and that Drizzt's combat skill is beyond his comprehension (Around the Legacy of the Drow series).
Catti-brie, as of the last book, is now far beyond Bruenor in skill level, so to say he could take her with no effort is ridiculous. I mean, you could pull out stats for them, run the scenarios, and Bruenor would be taking more losses than anyone else in the Companions (barring Regis of course).
I'm not trying to downplay Bruenor and say that he's not skilled, I just think he's the least qualified to take down these turtles. Back around say, Crystal Shard, you could maybe make the argument that Bruenor=Drizzt, but now that's far far from the case. Bruenor's a damn skilled fighter, with tons of experience, but he's no where near in the top tier of fighters in the Realm (I can name at least 20 better).
No they really don’t actually. The first time he was asked about this fight and I quote he said “Drizzt is the best there is however, I would never bet against Bruenor”.
Actually He never ounce stated that. Your full of it. Unless you give the book and page number your just talking out your back end. Bruenor has never said either of these things. How ever Drizzt has said that he owes Bruenor his life 5 times over in crystal shard.
First this is just you BS. Second there was nothing that even hinted this. If any thing it was the oposit. Bruenor since the Lone Drow has been hinted as being an avatar.
Not at all. She had to make sure beongar( how ever it spelled) Wulgar predecessor was drunk in order for her to claim victory. Also the reason she battled with him was because they all feared Bruenor would kill him.
You mean The DnD stats wich are terribly inaccurate? Even in those stats Bruenor is about 6 levels higher then Catt.
Your wrong. Nopt only is it shown through the books that Bruenor is easily both Wulgar and Catt. Superior it is also shown that Bruenor has and can easily defeat Wulgar.
Really since you been wrong this whole time I love to see it. Nothing has changed from the crystal shard that would make Drizzt superior. Hell Bruenor has feats just as good as Drizzt some may even be better such as scaring off an army of orcs. Killing a Dragon and so on.
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I don't argee at all. Drizzt has given me no reason to think he take Bruenor the majority and the author has only ever said one thing about what would happen if these to fought and he more or less that it be a tie.
Are you kidding? Why the hell would I just decide to make that up? He's not some superhuman living a life in the rich, mad wealthy world of fantasy writing...
Several times he's come to KC for book signings, to a few amateur fantasy writers conventions in the area, and usually stops into TableTop Games and Hobby in Shawnee, KS because he used to game with a guy there. Knowing that, friends and I will stop in there whenever the owner lets us know he's in town. It's in a damn strip mall, so we all order lunch and either eat at the store or at one of the restaurants around the area.
I believe it was Starless Night or Siege of Darkness when Bruenor comments on Drizzt's hands. And where is it hinted that Bruenor is possibly an avatar of Moradin? I think you're interpreting it differently.
Anyhow, a debate like this is completely irrelevant to the CB forums, so if you really still want to stab at this, there's still the book forums and PMs.
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Jan 25th, 2007 06:27 AM
) the Companions would be able to take it.
