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Man of Miracles v.s. Thanos /w/ THOTU

Who wins?

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Thanos /w/ THOTU:
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Don't know enough about either. Tho MOM seems to be more omnicient than Thanos and Thanos does fall to the mechanizations of Superior omnicient beings.


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MOM = Image comics TOAA


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They sound about equal.


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MOM is much greater than Thanos With THOU if he is indeed the supreme being of Image.


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Why? THOTU has the power of the supreme being of Marvel.


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Thanos 10/10, MOM hasnt really done anything impressive.


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Thanos 10/10, MOM hasnt really done anything impressive.


Besides create everything? Including image's god and satan?


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Why? THOTU has the power of the supreme being of Marvel.


THOU Is not the supreme power of marvel. it couldn't get to death. trust me, TOAA can get to whom ever he wants, when ever he wants. he can obliterate any thing and everything in every omniverse/multiverse/universe and put it all back together again. Thanos did not wield this kind of power. And he certainly isn't as smart as MOM if MOM is supreme in Image.

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So could Thanos with THOUT. But he'd actualy have to GO to those places before he destroyed them.


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Besides create everything? Including image's god and satan?
Image's "God" and "Satan" only rule over earth, they arent that powerful...., Celestials created almost everything look at what Thanos did to one of them.


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MoM is the sum of all in his reality, Thanos with Hotu was not.
HOTU seemed more a piece of Marvel's gods power, than the entire real deal.
As far as I can tell, everything seemed to be universal in the end story, and defying Tribunal seems to be a major conflict to this and seems to be the largest support to it as a multiversal threat. Things like Tribunal losing there, and in Last Planet Standing and his appearance in the Korvac what if, lead many to believe he works in duplicates.
Thanos kept speaking as if everything was in the boundaries of a universe.
And according to the Marvel handbook of alternate universes, The End took place in Universe 4321.


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MOM (AKA MOTHER) wins....

He/She created everything that is Image. There is no greater power than herself.

FYI...God also ruled over The Garden of Eden, not just Earth. God also rules Heaven, and Satan rules Hell.

There are four realms at stake here, not just one.

There power is not limitted to one world, and one planet in Image is not as cheap and inconsequential as one world in Marvel or DC.

*Angela took on a galactic threat and defeated it in Curse of Spawn, which IS CANON since it applies to Spawn issues 74-75.



Like the cheesiness that spawned from DragonBall Z, Marvel and DC made planets to be nothing more than giant rocks that explode on que.


In Image, in Spawn's universe, The Earth is not just a big rock....it has a life of its own. GREENWORLD exists within the Earth, the natural unifying spirit of every planet. In Spawn, The Earth is a living powerful organism, not just a big ball of disposable dust.


That is how Spawn was able to utilize Earth as imprisonment against the dark god Urizen. The forces of Earth itself (the elements) helped Spawn and Angela defeat Urizen.


Keep that in mind.



Thanos's powers with THOTU are indeed great, but his maturity and essential being is no match for MOM. In Image, there are no relics that can bring you to her power.


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Originally posted by Juntai
As far as I can tell, everything seemed to be universal in the end story, and defying Tribunal seems to be a major conflict to this and seems to be the largest support to it as a multiversal threat.


Negative,

it was the MULTI-VERSE that houses the 616 Universe.



The Omniversal Architecture

When Warlock first exited the Multi-verse, he entered a place called the Cosmic Vortex.
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In it, an INFINITE number of MULTI-VERSES are spiralling upward, while below lies Oblivion, (the ultimate Abstract in terms of everlasting), swallowing Multi-verses that collapse, are nullified, have a weakened Anchor (like Atleza) ect...
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These are MULTI-VERSES!


When I realized that Thanos DID in fact, Absorb MORE than just a UNIVERSE, that he actually absorbed ALL he could (which is the MULTI-VERSE)
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He absorbs Eternity and Infinity and there is still Space and star stuff behind
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This is not a designed attack, he's saying it himself "it's Out of Control"

Like a raging drunk, who's not selective in a brawl, anything in the way goes, and with that KIND of Power, that means everything goes. (like it did)



Here it continues,



"For IF this BAND (LT, Eternity/Infinity) Could Defy Me...might not OTHERS* be equally Foolish?"
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"Could I ALLOW ANY to question my divine Authority?"


"NO....So I CONTINUED to Absorb ALL that MIGHT Threaten my Reign...Until....
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See...He's absorbing MORE SPACE now, where is this SPACE coming from if he already absorbed ALL of Space and Time?

I'll answer that,


It has to be coming from the Multi-verse, there is no other way to look at it.
*(That's WHO these OTHERS are that MIGHT be equally foolish, the rest of Space, in other words, the MULTI-VERSE)


WHO else COULD question his authority, except anyone left in the MULTI-VERSE.


CAN'T be the Universe, he just ABSORBED the Universe (Eternity/Infinity remember)




Now your saying to yourself, fine, that conclusively despicts Thanos absorbing the Multi-verse.

But Mr M showed scans of the Cosmic Vortex, where an INFINITE number of Multi-verses are,

How could Thanos have absorbed ALL he could, when he ONLY absorbed ONE Multi-verse?

Now we go back to the OMNIVERSAL structure:




The OMNI-VERSE and the rest of the Multi-verses rest with in the Cosmic Vortex.

See those little Purple Balls, thats where Atleza is (the Cosmic Anchor of the "616" Multi-verse)...

and every little Purple Ball is the Domain of an Anchor of a Multi-verse ...

Each Domain is Outside the Multiverse...Untouched by Space or Time....

The much bigger Blue Balls represent EACH a Multi-verse, and the SUM of the Blue Balls is the Omni-verse.
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Anything Outside the Blue Balls is Untouched by Space & Time,
which Multi-Eternity/Infinity encompass.

See how the Blue Balls (Multi-verses) are separate from each other, and how the little Purple Balls (the Anchor's domain) are separated from the Blue Balls.

This is why Atleza, Gamora and Warlock were untouched, they were there, in A little Purple Ball, (the Anchors domain, Outside it's respective Multi-verse)

This is why Thanos could not absorb more, he absorbed everything within that Blue Ball (a Multi-verse) and evidently, he could not reach any furthur
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"Nothing Remained"

Remember he was "Out of Control"

He kept on absorbing till there was nothing left for him to absorb (literally), HAD he been able to absorb everything Outside his Multi-verse, it would have been no problem with TOAA's power,

But Thanos was NOT able to do it, meaning that's as FAR as TOAA permitted his power to be used, absorption of a Multi-verse and Remaking that same Multi-verse, even though being the most powerful being in the Omni-verse.


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Originally posted by Juntai
Things like Tribunal losing there, and in Last Planet Standing and his appearance in the Korvac what if, lead many to believe he works in duplicates.


LPS is a NON-CANON FANTASY.

KORVAC?

Was protected by Death, when LT issued his Ultimate Judgement back in 1982, a Super Nova,

since then, LT has created TWO Universes, shunted a FULL IG attack, recreated the ABSTRACTS and Powered down and Powered up the Infinity Gems.



And there is NO PROOF in Marvel Comics that suggest LT has "duplicates".. NONE.


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Originally posted by Juntai
Thanos kept speaking as if everything was in the boundaries of a universe.



Just because Reality is titled in Marvel "Universe" instead of Multi-verse or "Eternity" instead of Multi-Eternity, doesn't necessarily mean it's referring to ONE Universe.


Examples:

Roma she inherited the reins of the Multi-verse
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Roma Oversees the 616 Multi-verse personally,
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Roma says Understanding the Universe is hard enough, but she tends to Eternity (the Multi-verse) YET, she refers to him as Eternity, NOT Multi-Eternity

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"Within it, ALL that ever was, ever is or ever will be exists"





Here is another instance, I would post more, but if yall don't get it, then whatever.



This arc was dedicated to the MULTI-VERSE and yet it's called the UNIVERSE at times and just ETERNITY, instead of MULTI-ETERNITY


Here it's called the UNIVERSE:


"Molding the UNIVERSE to suit our dreams"

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NOW MULTI-VERSE:

"Comes down to conquering the Universe, well, MULTI-VERSE in my case"

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MULTI-VERSE again:

"the single most powerful Entity in ALL the MULTI-VERSE"

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NOW ETERNITY, but implying it's the MULTI-VERSE:

"ENTIRE UNIVERSES being born"
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"Detonate ETERNITY'S Heart, Re-Birthing everything in ALL the UNIVERSES"



AFTER Dormammu, has succeeded in becoming the New CREATOR of the MULTI-VERSE


"Did he think I would not feel him ENTERING my UNIVERSE"

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Now the question is, how do we define what they are referring to when we see these contradictory titles?


Simply by following the entire STORY LINE.


Jim Starlin's whole purpose behind the END series was to out do the Infinity Gauntlet arc,

Now your going to tell me, ol' Jimmy introduced the POWER of TOAA to mess with a single Universe, when Magus and his INCOMPLETE IG was controlling TWO UNIVERSES? (Also WRITTEN by Starlin by the way)


Come on people.


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Originally posted by Juntai
And according to the Marvel handbook of alternate universes, The End took place in Universe 4321.


Interesting,


Yet during the END series Thanos is RECALLING his history with the Cosmic Cube and the Infinity Gauntlet,

If that was not Thanos of 616, HOW the heck is he talking about his conquest of the Cosmic Cube and the Infinity Gauntlet, which took place in 616?

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You should know better than to step to the plate with bio non-sense.


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TOAA and Presence are the two creator beings of the biggest fictional universes.
Image, darkhorse is next to nothing compared to them ...
Both are omnipotent, battle would go on forever.

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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
TOAA and Presence are the two creator beings of the biggest fictional universes.
Image, darkhorse is next to nothing compared to them ...
Both are omnipotent, battle would go on forever.


Please Explain how Image is nothing compared to Marvel and DC ?


In Image a world has its own strength and its own life, while in Marvel and DC a world is just a giant disposable rock that explodes on fkn que.

In Image, the Universe is so complex, diverse, vast and beyond human knowledge, so much that even comic book logic cannot explain it.

In Marvel and DC Universes are as disposable as a cancelled comic book.


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Originally posted by Juntai
MoM is the sum of all in his reality


Corrections:


1) HER Reality. God and Satan call her "mother"

2) She is the CREATOR of the Spawn reality, not its summation. She exists independent from her universe.


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Originally posted by Board Walker
MOM = Image comics TOAA


what does TOAA mean and THOTU

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what does TOAA mean and THOTU


TOAA - The One Above All


THOTU - Is actually the Heart of the Infinite

but Thanos nicknamed it, The Heart of the Universe


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