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Michael Demiurgos vs Mad Jim Jaspers

Who takes it?


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The Demiurgos Or Arc Angel will literally slaughter MJJ. Not even a close fight.


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Michael being the second most powerful in Vertigo means nothing, as there're no massive feats there.

However, Michael's death is the birh of a universe (which can be shaped into a multiverse.)

616 Jaspers however would evolve into a omniversal threat in time. What being said, if Jaspers was given enough time, he'd probably win.

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^different meanings of the word omniverse and multiverse being taken here. they mean the same thing in their respective publishers. micheal is immortal and can birth a potentially limitless number of multiverses, or destroy just as many. and he is above death until the time that he decides to willingly give his power, without which, death is more like a rebrth/healing for him.

jim jaspers is outclassed here, micheal wins.

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Omniverse = Infinite amount of Multiverses - Stop ignoring evidence.

Vertigo had 3 Multiverses (Yahweh stated that there were 3 creations, and we know that Lucifer's was a Multiverse.)

Multiverse =/= Omniverse
:::::Fact!:::::

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^there is no such thing as MARVEL omniverse

FACT

there is no such thing as OMNIversal power

FACT

stop ignoring evidence.

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Buddy ... This is the only "fact" that's suported by evidence.

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The term multiverse is somewhat subjective, as it's just a grouping of Universes. Assuming you have a truly infinite amount of universes, you can have an infinite number of groupings of them with an unmeasurable amount of universes in any given one.


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Buddy ... This is the only "fact" that's suported by evidence.

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egotistical, pathetic and ultimately wrong. omniverse is a collection of all realities , real and virtual from all media from all past present and future .

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Jaspers isnt beating Micheal


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by leonheartmm
egotistical, pathetic and ultimately wrong.

The only one being pathetic and wrong is the one that can't accept the facts presented multiple times over. Both on panel, and later confirmed in the handbooks.

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omniverse is a collection of all realities , real and virtual from all media from all past present and future .

Just like Marvel's then, all possible realities in all times (past, present and future.)

If Marvel Corps confirms that the Marvel Universe is in fact a Omniverse, then that's a fact. As much a fact as anything else in the comics. You somehow trying to discredit their written words, with nothing but your own biased opinion as source is not to any value.

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The only one being pathetic and wrong is the one that can't accept the facts presented multiple times over. Both on panel, and later confirmed in the handbooks.


Just like Marvel's then, all possible realities in all times (past, present and future.)

If Marvel Corps confirms that the Marvel Universe is in fact a Omniverse, then that's a fact. As much a fact as anything else in the comics. You somehow trying to discredit their written words, with nothing but your own biased opinion as source is not to any value.


illegal, copyright imposition. marvel statements dont matter if they conflict with copyright, deal with it.

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Michael is above Jaspers.


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illegal, copyright imposition. marvel statements dont matter if they conflict with copyright, deal with it.


Who has copyright on the term Omniverse?


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illegal, copyright imposition. marvel statements dont matter if they conflict with copyright, deal with it.

Omniverse isn't copyrighted, there's even a band named "Omniverse." If it was copyrighted they would've been down before even starting.
Marvel can, just like the music band above, take the term under their wings.

It isn't copyrighted get your facts straight.

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Who has copyright on the term Omniverse?

No one has, leon is once again straight out lying to you about shit he doesn't know anything about.

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Michael takes it


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Originally posted by Astner
Omniverse isn't copyrighted, there's even a music store named "Omniverse." If it was copyrighted the store would've been down before it opened.
Marvel can, just like the music store above, take the term under their wings.

It isn't copyrighted get your facts straight.


Well, now, Omniverse is what as known as a public domain term. No one can copyright is because the industry insiders all use it to term the entire collected reality of everything sci-fi, fantasy, fiction. It is what allows, Marvel, DC, Resident Evil, Dragon Ball Z, RoboCop, Dracula, etc to all be able to at any time be written into a comic with no need for explaination as to why they are able to do so.

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This is the scientifical use of the term

"In physical cosmology, omniverse is a term used to differentiate a limited number of universes from all existent universes."

"Omniverse: Infinity, all possible attributes and modes are in play, multiverses are categorized by the attributes/modes active in its child universes.
This can be visualized by thinking of this as a tree structure: the omniverse is the trunk, the multiverse is branch, and the universe is a secondary branch.
Alternatively, the omniverse is the forest, a multiverse is a tree in the forest, a universe is a branch on that tree, and all further branches are further subset horizons within that universe.
Obviously it goes without saying that this model itself must be limited by a horizon. Thus, it is at best incomplete."

There's nothing about any fictional universes.

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quote: (post)
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This is the scientifical use of the term

"In physical cosmology, omniverse is a term used to differentiate a limited number of universes from all existent universes."

"Omniverse: Infinity, all possible attributes and modes are in play, multiverses are categorized by the attributes/modes active in its child universes.
This can be visualized by thinking of this as a tree structure: the omniverse is the trunk, the multiverse is branch, and the universe is a secondary branch.
Alternatively, the omniverse is the forest, a multiverse is a tree in the forest, a universe is a branch on that tree, and all further branches are further subset horizons within that universe.
Obviously it goes without saying that this model itself must be limited by a horizon. Thus, it is at best incomplete."

There's nothing about any fictional universes.

Um, since when are you using a SCIENTIFIC definition to use as a definite of a COMIC Fictional Term?

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