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Emperor Vulcan versus Magneto

Earth 616 Vulcan as depicted in the Emperor Vulcan limited series, and Earth 616 Magneto at his known prime. Neutral setting.

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I'll still take Magneto for the slight majority. Gabe hasn't quite cemented his place at the top of the mutant tier, with the likes of Exodus, Mags etc. He's getting there, though.

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Well I don't know about that. The way he singlehandedly took on the entire Imperial Guard pretty much cements his position as one of the most powerful mutants imho. Hell, even as one of Moira MacTaggert's youngsters his potential was so high that Xavier was more intrigued by it than he was by Darwin's "reactive evolution" (the unique way in which he constantly evolved based on his environments and situation). Xavier even theorized that he could have eventually become one of the most powerful energy manipulators on Earth, and he was even able to outclass Cyclops at this point, and this was before absorbing all of the energy released from the Mutants on M-Day, where he obtained potential beyond that of an Omega Level Mutant.

I'd say Vulcan's got this.

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In a what if he beat him. But Vulcan could just turn his mutant gene off.

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Could anyone tell me which "What If?" comics he appears in, I can't seem to find them anywhere. Also, nothing to my knowledge ever indicates that Vulcan can manipulate the electric current in a mutant's brain to suppress their abilities without utilising a high level of concentration. It's doubtful he'd be able to do it in a fast paced fight to the death.

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Well I don't know about that. The way he singlehandedly took on the entire Imperial Guard pretty much cements his position as one of the most powerful mutants imho. Hell, even as one of Moira MacTaggert's youngsters his potential was so high that Xavier was more intrigued by it than he was by Darwin's "reactive evolution" (the unique way in which he constantly evolved based on his environments and situation). Xavier even theorized that he could have eventually become one of the most powerful energy manipulators on Earth, and he was even able to outclass Cyclops at this point, and this was before absorbing all of the energy released from the Mutants on M-Day, where he obtained potential beyond that of an Omega Level Mutant.

I'd say Vulcan's got this.


When did Vulcan get powers from the collective? blink

And he didn't single handedly take out the Imperial Guard, he was beaten by Gladiator.

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The last What-If. What-If Vulcan became one with Phoenix or some shit...

Plus, beating Mags? Can't see it. erm


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Also you can't get potential beyond an omega mutant, that doesn't even make sense.


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He could just turn his mutant gene of. no expression

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He could just turn his mutant gene of. no expression



If he could get past his shields.

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I don't think his shields protect him from that type of attack.

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Why wouldn't they?

It keeps all kinds of energy out.

keeps basically anything out, aside from telepathy.


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I don't think its an attack know really.

His shields are energy? Then Vulcan just controls the energy of the shields.

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When did I say his shields were energy?


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I didn't say you did I was asking dumbass.

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Why are you getting mad, quick to anger shows a lack of intelligence.


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When did Vulcan get powers from the collective? blink


Who said anything about the collective? If you haven't, read Deadly Genesis. It explains how Vulcan was able to absorb a large amount of the energy released from the mutants on M-Day.

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And he didn't single handedly take out the Imperial Guard, he was beaten by Gladiator.


My exact words were "took on," not "took out." Now sure, Gladiator did eventually defeat the weakened Vulcan, but Vulcan still kicked a lot of ass, slaying a few of them, and even blasting Gladiator back at one point. The entire feat alone puts Vulcan pretty high up on the Mutant hierarchy to be sure.

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Who said anything about the collective? If you haven't, read Deadly Genesis. It explains how Vulcan was able to absorb a large amount of the energy released from the mutants on M-Day.



My exact words were "took on," not "took out." Now sure, Gladiator did eventually defeat the weakened Vulcan, but Vulcan still kicked a lot of ass, slaying a few of them, and even blasting Gladiator back at one point. The entire feat alone puts Vulcan pretty high up on the Mutant hierarchy to be sure.


The energy released from the mutants on M-day was the collective.

Deadly genesis came out a long time ago, I can't be bothered to remember every detail.

A lot of people can take on the Imperial Guard, it doesn't matter if they end up losing. I agree that he is one of the strongest mutants, but they way you worded it made it seem like he was beating them or was an even match for them.

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He fought like an idiot. He could have messed with his head anything. That was a low showing because he acted like you. An idiot.

check my respect thread of him dumbass

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My exact words were "took on," not "took out." Now sure, Gladiator did eventually defeat the weakened Vulcan, but Vulcan still kicked a lot of ass, slaying a few of them, and even blasting Gladiator back at one point. The entire feat alone puts Vulcan pretty high up on the Mutant hierarchy to be sure. [/B][/QUOTE]

Gambit took out Gladiator once... embarrasment

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