Ok...one on one...normal Captain America wouldn't have a chance against Hulk physically. If Cap had the power gem...would that augment his strength enough to overcome and defeat the Hulk?
well the power gem contains access to all power and energy that ever has or will exist. It backs up the other gems and boosts their effects. With this gem alone, the user can eventually duplicate almost any physical superhuman ability, and is essentially physically invincible and therefore unbeatable when using raw power alone. and the champion has possessed this gem in the past
Captain will rip Hulk apart. Drax is a moron fighter like most hulk versions and all tehy do is bash each other like a couple of brawlers. Captain on the other had actually has skill. Even without the gem Cap was able to lay some smack on the Hulk. def not even close to beat him but he did smack him around until he fell on his back. (and yes just using his body and sheild no special stuff) So yeah with a power gem he will def whoop hulks as*.
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Frankly with the power gem skilll shoulld not play much of a role. Drax is already uper level class hundred without the gem and could not drop the hulk when he ( drax) had the gem. How is cap going to do it?
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WHoa whoa whoa before I make a fool of you are you saying "Strength" is the only consideration in combat when fighting? So YOu know Hulk is super strong and you think the best course of action to beat hulk tis to out muscle him? Please explain.... god have mercy on your soul.
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Really u can only make a fool out of urself and show ur inabiility to comprehend statements. I did not say that strength is the only consideration when fighting. You seem to think that Drax does not have super strength as well. Drax is superstrong( nearly a strong as hulk) without the power gem but evn with the gem amping his strength he was not that impressive. Captain America is not evn 1/1000000000 of a normal draxs strength. He may be loads more skillful but the his skill is not enough to stop a character that is physically on hulks level. All the times he has hurt hulk in the past are just PIS to the core and happend to much weaker versions of hulk than current WWH. The main question therefore is can the power gem amp captain americas strengh/ durability to a level high enough for his skill and strength to be able to overcome the hulk. The answer is definitely no. This is why i used the drax example. Drax with the gem amping his already great strength ws stalemating with a weaker hulk. Therefore it is unlikely that the gem will amp captain americas strengh high enough for his skill to play a major role against the hulks ver increasing strength/durability.( especially not WWH)
Evn when thor had the gem, it did not amp his strength and other powers to a level high enough to beat thanos. Now thanos is strong and powerful but when you consider that thor was already 10 times as powerful as normal ( warrior madnss) and the gem could not amp an already extra powerful thor to a above thanos level, i think it is rather dissapointing.
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You know what I dont think Cap wins with power gem but thats statement is incorrect. Hes hurt people more powerful than Hulk and people with comparable durability. Saying its PUS show a lack of understanding of the characters skills.
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He might have done it to others ( who did he hurt more powerful than hulk) but the reason i called it PIS is that its just plain stupid. How can you be able to physically hurt the hulk and not one shot guys like Dardevil? How can you get hit by the hulk and survive and get knocked out by streetlevelers? Its the same with batman whose kick can hurt anything, or the blackpanther who armbarred the silver surfer. Its just should not happen cuz it evn defies comic logic. Cap may know how to use pressure points supremely well but considering that the hulks body is far stronger than a normal humans, cap simply does not have the raw strength to do it.
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Bricks tend to be significantly slower than street levelers so Cap has more time to do the move and produce more force. With faster more skillful opponents its alot harder.
Hes skillful and fast enough to roll with it. If he takes it fullforce then its PIS.
Nope. You know why because if you knew about the character Captain America has been doing that shit for 100s of years and more consistently. If a character does something consistently over a long period of time you cant call it PIS, if it was once or twice...then yes.
Furthermore it doesnt matter wether its stupid. Not everything makes sense in comicbook logic.
Hell why do people of class 100 strength have trouble jumping out of orbit despite the fact they can lift billions of tons and weigh next to nothing?
Why is it class 100 people can manage to lift billions of tons but never kill anybody by accident due to strength? Hell they can just slap people people on the back and hug people then the next minute there lifting up a skyscraper.
Why is it when class 100s punch people they never go out of orbit they tend to just go a couple of miles, despite the fact they are using full force punches.
Sometimes we accept certain things because we are dealing with a world with diffferent laws. Yeah there is logic in comicbooks but its not always the same as the real world.
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I understand that cap has been doing it for a long time so it might not be PIS per se. Howver it is still not consistent. Cap may have more time to execute a move against a charcter like hulk than he would against someone like daredevil but considering the difference in the physical attributes of charcters he would need much less force for daredevil and would certainly not need as much time.
Anyway it all matters little as the power gem wont amp caps capabilities enough to stop WWH from killing him.
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Thats true but its consistent enough for it to be considered an established part of his powers. As I stated before there are lots of things that dont make any sense in comics but because they have been happening for a long time we consider it to a be part of comicbook logic.
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