illadelph
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Superboy Prime Vs. Dr. Strange & Merlin [Marvel]
(To see just how far down this rabbit hole people are willing to go):
All out War.
Strange and Merlin get 10 seconds of prep time.
Discuss.
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May 5th, 2006 10:39 PM
grey fox
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Ten seconds is all they need. Time freeze .
They then transmute Superboy Primes armour into chocolate and fling him into Dormammu's realm.
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May 5th, 2006 10:41 PM
illadelph
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Not exactly. The GLs and Supermen had a few hours of prep and it still resulted in about 30 dead GLs, a dead Superman of Earth-2, and a shattered Great Wall of Oa.
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May 5th, 2006 10:45 PM
grey fox
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by illadelph12
Not exactly. The GLs and Supermen had a few hours of prep and it still resulted in about 30 dead GLs, a dead Superman of Earth-2, and a shattered Great Wall of Oa.
A. Those Gl's were jobbing , any half sane man would have constructed something decent.
B. None of them can freeze time.
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May 5th, 2006 10:47 PM
Laminator_X
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Agreed that ten seconds is plenty. However, banishing him is a no go, he'll make it back!
That being said, using the Eye of Agamotto to mind-freeze him should be a home run for the wizards. Once he's immobilized, they can transform him into a normal human, mind-wipe him, and drop him off in a Kansas bus station.
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May 5th, 2006 10:47 PM
grey fox
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Laminator_X
Agreed that ten seconds is plenty. However, banishing him is a no go, he'll make it back!
That being said, using the Eye of Agamotto to mind-freeze him should be a home run for the wizards. Once he's immobilized, they can transform him into a normal human, mind-wipe him, and drop him off in a Kansas bus station.
I could see that happening.
SBP : Huh , where am I and why am i shirtless ?
Random By-passer : And whats with the big-ass superman scar on your chest ?
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May 5th, 2006 10:51 PM
grey fox
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Laminator_X
Agreed that ten seconds is plenty. However, banishing him is a no go, he'll make it back!
How ?
He'll be stuck in a hellish nether dimension where even the most tiny and pitiful creature is dripping with magic, ruled over by Dormammu. He'd slap the kid till he knocked some sense into him.
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May 5th, 2006 10:53 PM
Laminator_X
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by grey fox
A. Those Gl's were jobbing , any half sane man would have constructed something decent.
Second that! "The Plan" was lame. Is Krypon's sun the only red giant in existance? They knew that the local Kryptonite wouldn't harm the foreign Kryptonians, so why did they choose that sun? Did Kal-El need a handicap?
Good idea to have Mogo in waiting, but then he didn't do a single thing! He's the most powerful of all the GL's and he couldn't bottle up SBP after the red-sun-bath? Mogo couldn't remove the Kryptonite? Mogo couldn't save Kal-L? Why was Mogo there again?
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May 5th, 2006 10:55 PM
Laminator_X
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by grey fox
How ?
He'll be stuck in a hellish nether dimension where even the most tiny and pitiful creature is dripping with magic, ruled over by Dormammu. He'd slap the kid till he knocked some sense into him.
Maybe, but after returning from both the Speed Force (the speed force has planets with red suns in it? sigh ) and the Phantom Zone, I wouldn't bet my life on it.
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May 5th, 2006 10:57 PM
illadelph
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That's assuming that Superboy Prime doesn't out-maneuver the spell. The magic bolt might miss him. And then he'd be in close quarters seemingly instantaneously.
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May 5th, 2006 10:59 PM
grey fox
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Laminator_X
Second that! "The Plan" was lame. Is Krypon's sun the only red giant in existance? They knew that the local Kryptonite wouldn't harm the foreign Kryptonians, so why did they choose that sun? Did Kal-El need a handicap?
Good idea to have Mogo in waiting, but then he didn't do a single thing! He's the most powerful of all the GL's and he couldn't bottle up SBP after the red-sun-bath? Mogo couldn't remove the Kryptonite? Mogo couldn't save Kal-L? Why was Mogo there again?
Personally i would have just replicated a planet sized Hunk of K-nite and threw it at the little bastard.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Laminator_X
Maybe, but after returning from both the Speed Force (the speed force has planets with red suns in it? sigh ) and the Phantom Zone, I wouldn't bet my life on it.
My only problem agreeing with you is that nether of those are magical , i know the 'Magic only tickled' sbp . But at least it caught his attention.
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May 5th, 2006 11:00 PM
grey fox
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by illadelph12
That's assuming that Superboy Prime doesn't out-maneuver the spell. The magic bolt might miss him. And then he'd be in close quarters seemingly instantaneously.
No
Time freeze works on EVERYTHING not just a singular object.
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May 5th, 2006 11:01 PM
illadelph
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by grey fox
My only problem agreeing with you is that nether of those are magical , i know the 'Magic only tickled' sbp . But at least it caught his attention.
Black Adam punched Superboy, he didn't cast a spell on him. Magic was already in a flux due to Spectre's actions.
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May 5th, 2006 11:05 PM
grey fox
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by illadelph12
Black Adam punched Superboy, he didn't cast a spell on him. Magic was already in a flux due to Spectre's actions.
So what in the name of jebus was powering the marvels ?
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May 5th, 2006 11:06 PM
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DC's Magic is different from Marvel's magic
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May 5th, 2006 11:11 PM
illadelph
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by grey fox
So what in the name of jebus was powering the marvels ?
Writers...
Another thing:
Time stoppage won't effect him if the Speedforce itself had no effect. All motion, or lack their of, including time, make up the substance of the Speedforce.
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May 5th, 2006 11:12 PM
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Merlin? This thread is about as lopsided as Superman/Hulk.
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May 5th, 2006 11:12 PM
Milkie
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by grey fox
So what in the name of jebus was powering the marvels ?
The gods
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May 5th, 2006 11:15 PM
grey fox
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by illadelph12
Writers...
Another thing:
Time stoppage won't effect him if the Speedforce itself had no effect. All motion, or lack their of, including time, make up the substance of the Speedforce.
No , by the sound of it SBP ended up on another world since he was 'under a red sun'
Night guy's
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May 5th, 2006 11:15 PM
Milkie
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by illadelph12
Writers...
Another thing:
Time stoppage won't effect him if the Speedforce itself had no effect. All motion, or lack their of, including time, make up the substance of the Speedforce.
Yeah. In the DC Universe. These rules don't effect Strange
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