So for the fate of the omniverse, Metron and Worlock have gained knowlege that Thanos and DS are working together to plot the destruction and reordering of all realties into one in which they would split The spoils and engage in eternal conflict with each other for thier musings.
Metron and Warlock sensing the peril of all the denizens of reality, and the absolute torture and fear they would suffer at the hands of the stone faces if they are forced to endure eteral conflict, decide that they must out prep the duo.
can metron and warlock beat Thanos and DS at thier own game?
Thanos and DS have no knowlege that Metron and Warlock are on to them.
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no, Metron and Warlock are inferior to DS and Thanos, respectively
although DS and Thanos may just have too much ego between them to work effectively and that each will try to screw the other thereby resulting in self-defeat
Hey hey! you said it. How did he acquire these Powered Artifacts in the first part? You can't just put it aside, Thanos work up good plan to acquire those through planning
. : / Where are those Thanos fanboys When we need them most!
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And the problem is, he can't get those artifacts again. HOTU no longer exists. The infinity gems can no longer be merged per TOAA's command.
He got the gems from the Elders of the universe. Losers one and all.
TOAA set HOTU up specifically for Thanos to get, it doesn't count as a prep feat. Yes, he gets credit for finding it, but how much does it count when GOD wants you to win and acquire the item in questions?
Darkseid has never had such luxuries. In fact, his plans are much more complex because he operates on a higher level and he has tougher opposition. Not to mention having to deal with New Genesis, a planet of New Gods equal or near equal to his own forces.
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Darkseid was easily defeated in countdown along with mary marvel. his power source was destroyed rather quickly.
Darkseid was killed in countdown by the likes of Orion. He had the Source beat and mucked that all up as well in dong. Supes distracted him giving the Source the time to summon Orion which ran Darkseid off.
All Darkseid's brilliant planning mucked up by Supes. Thats it.
The new gods souls powerup doesnt exist either. His chances of gaining the godwave also were mucked up. Ares beat him to the punch. He outschemed Darkseid. NO ONE OUTSCHEMES A MOTIVATED THANOS.
Thanos still put himself in a position to get his hands on it. It most certainly counts. Only Thanos could handle this awesome power and fix these flaws.
Darkseid isnt as good as Thanos. He gets outschemed and screws up all the time. Thanos accomplishes his goals while Darkseid doesnt. Thats the difference.
Tricksterpriest is right. The difference between Thanos and Darkseid is that Darkseid isn't given the luxuries Thanos has. The gems, HOTU all of these were in convenient places, easily within physical reach for Thanos.
Darkseid actually has to rely on his own prowess to get anything, his intellect, his tech, his forces and against great odds: namely an empire with as much power and technology as his own including many of the universes heroes.
DC doesn't have a HOTU or an IG, so in DS's case those feats by Thanos shouldn't count in a comparison. The ALE is not a trinket or an object conveniently within reach for Darkseid, he's had to go through years of experimentation to trigger an event, cataclysm or source of power to acquire it, not the same thing at all.
As far as outfoxing Darkseid goes, he has far more active experience with betrayal and secret plotting than Thanos. Darkseid is surrounded by schemers and backstabbers, he welcomes their ambition while he himself schemes and plans around them. History shows that Darkseid is more likely to outfox Thanos.
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New gods powerup does exist. It's easily within his ability to recreate. Godwave, well, that one is out. But in case you didn't notice, Ares beat him to the punch, but Darkseid was prepared for that regardless. He still managed to trap Ares with his tech, despite universal power backing Ares.
"NO ONE OUTSCHEMES A MOTIVATED THANOS." Adam Warlock, God, Captain Mar-Vel, Mephisto briefly, Fantastic 4, Mistress Death, and if you count his interference in Annihilation, Drax.
Thanos was hand-picked by god. Yes, he was good enough to figure it out, but only after he gained it did he realize it was a poison pill.
Thanos accomplishes his goals? Then why isn't he still ruler of the universe, wielder of the infinity gauntlet, etc? Because like almost every other villain, Thanos too fails. the big problem is, Thanos causes his own downfall. He has a massive failure/inferiority complex which has cost him ultimate power no less than 3 times.
Darkseid may lose, but at least he doesn't lose because of an innate weakness or personality failing.
Thanos's biggest problem is ironically what you call his strength. Starlin. The man is a hack writer, and it hurts Thanos's character. See, Starlin can write some people well, perhaps even brilliantly. But he has a noted tendency to do so at the expense of others. Making his creations look better by comparison, he dumbs down the opposition. Which is why he's inferior to truly great writers like Ellis, Morrison, Johns, Ostrander and Simone.
it is entirely possible to make a villain look great, while still respecting and acknowledging the hero's abilities and character. And in that, is Starlin's failing. He's unoriginal, repetative, and appears to have a genuine lack of writing talent.
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He never outsmarted Galactus, because it was always one-sided prep.
Galactus was never plotting against Thanos, Thanos was just trying to gain powerful items. Thanos never really outsmarts Galactus, can your mind grasp this? Getting THOTU wasn't Thanos outsmarting the LT or any other abstracts, none of them were trying to acquire that power nor were any of them trying to "fight" Thanos. Was the event with "Hunger" supposed to be an example of Thanos outsmarting Galactus? Because it was laughable.
Let's say that John plans to kill the unaware Joe. John purchases a gun and shoots Joe. Did John outsmart Joe?
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Losers one and all. 
