hmmm. I would still have to say kratos, as the only way vergil can hurt him is close up, but by then since kratos has exremely good reflexes, and his blades have a good medium range, vergil would probably already be dead.
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well, those slices from afar are pretty easy to dodge, kratos could just roll out of the way, and vergils regeneration only does so good until the person hes fighting could easily rip him in half and decapitate him in the matter of a split second being close to him.
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Well, how can he dodge it, when it won't see it? He couldn't dodge when Charon swung his Scythe. It would be too hard to dodge. Besides, he can be 100 feet away, and Kratos will be gone(See: DMC4 Yamato scene).
Identical doesn't mean that they are exactly the same. Twins are twins but they are still different people. They are individuals. Look at alternate versions of comic characters. Hell if they were so identical then they would forever be stalemating each other.
Identical when it comes to basic powers such as strength, speed etc, not energy usage or other specifics like Dante does with RG, or Vergil with Summoned Swords etc. Sure they could do what the other does, but they'd never be as proficient as the other is (i.e. Dante would never be as proficient with SS)
Also, Vergil is much much more proficient with swords, at least more so than DMC 3 Dante. Hands down more proficient with Yamato than any Dante seen so far. He could easily replicate and probably outdo Dante's feat in 4 (Directed at Wei ).
Vergil's also much more ruthless & less prone to playing around, seeing as how he wtfpwned Beowulf in a few seconds.
GoW 1 Kratos doesn't stand a chance, he's already lost his magics. RotG can only do so much, doesn't even give him invincibility.
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Dante used devil arms to smash the lesser gates.
Sheer speed alone screws Kratos over. Being able to block bullets from the likes of Dante, or better yet, catch them on your sword and then throw them as a single row back at him? Kratos doesn't have shit on that.
Also, Kratos rarely has faced opponents with skills comparable to his own. And Vergil took down Dante in DMC3 the first time, drew dead even the 2nd, and almost beat him the 3rd. Something I honestly believe is beyond Kratos for the most part.
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Beyond Kratos from God of War 1 mostly. Sure as hell as beyond him if he loses part of his arsenal.
Ares, Zeus & Persephone were comparable in power, higher in terms of overall power imo. He's also most likely going to go through a whole slew of gods in 3.
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It doesnt matter how fast he is, i couldnt care less about that. The fact is that kratos reaction>>>> vergils speed, so the only way he can win this fight is to actually get close up... and by that time hes already dead.
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Kratos' reaction is shitty. He couldn't even react to a pathetic sickle, hell, not even a pillar. Vergil's speed could be his reaction(if you know what I mean). Either way, Vergil is too fast for Kratos. He would just teleport behind him, and chop his head off, or just knock him in the air with Beowulf, and cut him in half. And why does he have to get up close? Kratos won't be hitting him close, nor far away. And Kratos hasn't fought anyone the speed of Vergil, and don't say Zeus. Really. All Vergil has to do is run at Kratos and cut him in half.
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I don't recall Charon's scythe ever KO'ing him, just that massive wave which by plot device was unavoidable, and aside from the fact that the pillar was thrown at least across Greece at the speed it was flying, Kratos was still busy with Pandora's Box. Not to mention if Zeus isn't to be said as an example (though it is as much a case since every God Kratos has fought has shown TK or Teleportation on at least one occasion, if not in their fights with Kratos, then prior to it), then Charon, in both cutscenes he appeared in, showed virtually instantaneous movement/teleportation, and survived being bisected by his own scythe until he was beaten to death by the Gauntlet of Zeus. The only things Kratos never reacted to were the things that caught him off guard and/or weakened.
With or without Beowulf, Kratos by feats is still stronger. Hell, what little we've seen of the Cestus at least begins to already make it look comparable to what Beowulf ever did. Not to ramble off-topic, 'scuse me.
Also, despite how I'm posting this, I'm not necessarily saying Kratos wins, if only because of the restrictions in the topic (all-out, then he's in another league). But I will say that Kratos' biggest challenge comes from the fact that unlike Dante, Vergil is actually serious.
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