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Cool flash vs juggernaut charge

FLash and 8th day Juggernaut are going to ram each other but they start from a great distance so juggy gets a chance to move a couple feet at least to pick up the pace.

The question is will flash be able to knock down juggernaut with his speed the second they ram each other ?

Or will it be like bumping into an adamantium wall for flash and he takes the fall for running into 8th day juggernaut even with his light speed ?

so whose the last one standing from the charge ?

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Depending how far it is. Flash might ram him before Juggernaut can even move.
I don't think Flash will knock him out though,


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Depending how far it is. Flash might ram him before Juggernaut can even move.
I don't think Flash will knock him out though,
flash starts from south pole juggernaut north pole. and this is about who goes down not necessarily meaning any of them get knocked out. but yeah theres a chance that flash could get knocked out from ramming 8th day juggernaut at light speed. but maybe theres a chance of him knocking juggy down not meaning he will get knocked out. just on his back for a sec.

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Flash doesn't stop Cain.


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Flash doesn't stop Cain.
even at light speed ? i know if juggy got a chance to move afew feet to get the momentum going which would make it harder for flash but flash would reach the other end of the earth probably before cain gets a chance to move an inch. but yeah as durable juggy is this wont be the easiest thing flash would ever try to ram.

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Regular Juggernaut? Flash would move him for sure.

8th Day? No way in hell.

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Regular Juggernaut? Flash would move him for sure.

8th Day? No way in hell.
ok 8th day juggy is spite. its flash and current juggernaut charging eachother

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Well current Juggernaut has the full powers of Cytorrak again. I say Flash slows him down to an almost stop, but nothing can ever truly stops him from moving. Flash hits him, get's hurt doing it, and slows Cain down.

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its flash and current juggernaut charging eachother


Then yeah. IMP FTLOM! (For the loss of momentum.)

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Flash can apparently gain Infinite Mass. If he truly gains Infinite Mass (The Universe doesn't collapse or anything of that manner because of the Speed Force.), he stops him cold, and pushes him back.

The Speed Force would also protect Flash from any damage.

Flash would be in Juggernaut's face before he forms a coherent thought.


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Flash can apparently gain Infinite Mass. If he truly gains Infinite Mass (The Universe doesn't collapse or anything of that manner because of the Speed Force.), he stops him cold, and pushes him back.

The Speed Force would also protect Flash from any damage.

Flash would be in Juggernaut's face before he forms a coherent thought.


Two things: Infinite Mass Punch isn't infinite mass. Its near-infinite mass. Relativistic speeds. Hits with the force of a white dwarf star, supposedly. Not infinity. I think we've had this convo before. Either you and me or Galan and me. Meh.

Also, they start at opposite poles of Earth. And Juggernaut gets to take a few steps first. He'll definitely be able to form a coherent thought. stick out tongue

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He doesn't get that fast in an instant, and the thing that says nothing can stop him, isn't hyperbole, it means he literally can't be stopped, he can be slowed to the point where his momentum is almost nothing, but he can never be stopped.

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Two things: Infinite Mass Punch isn't infinite mass. Its near-infinite mass. Relativistic speeds. Hits with the force of a white dwarf star, supposedly. Not infinity. I think we've had this convo before. Either you and me or Galan and me. Meh.

Also, they start at opposite poles of Earth. And Juggernaut gets to take a few steps first. He'll definitely be able to form a coherent thought. stick out tongue


We have never had this conversation before.

It's not only his fist that gains mass from what I recall, and it was stated that he is approaching "Infinite" mass.

A white Dwarf Star is not his limit.

Wally was from what I remember approaching Infinite Mass from what I recall. It's stands to reason he would reach Infinite Mass if he kept going as he was already on the way. It's been stated on other occasions that he has approached near Infinite Mass and that wasn't his limit.

If Wally can reach Infinite Mass, he stops Cain.

Opposite ends of the Earth?

You're point?

I've seen Wally go faster than light and then some in 2 steps. Light Speed can circle the Earth how many times in moments?


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He doesn't get that fast in an instant, and the thing that says nothing can stop him, isn't hyperbole, it means he literally can't be stopped, he can be slowed to the point where his momentum is almost nothing, but he can never be stopped.


Faster than light in about one to two steps from what I recall. Wally can go that fast.

I've seen the Juggernaut stopped, and even pushed back on different occasions.


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Regardless, if Cain at least get's a single step off, his momentum can be halted, but not stopped.

Tell me when he got pushed back.

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
We have never had this conversation before.

It's not only his fist that gains mass from what I recall, and it was stated that he is approaching "Infinite" mass.

A white Dwarf Star is not his limit.

Wally was from what I remember approaching Infinite Mass from what I recall. It's stands to reason he would reach Infinite Mass if he kept going as he was already on the way. It's been stated on other occasions that he has approached near Infinite Mass and that wasn't his limit.

If Wally can reach Infinite Mass, he stops Cain.

Opposite ends of the Earth?

You're point?

I've seen Wally go faster than light and then some in 2 steps. Light Speed can circle the Earth how many times in moments?
Flash will never reach infinite mass.

He can't.


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It's not only his fist that gains mass from what I recall, and it was stated that he is approaching "Infinite" mass.

A white Dwarf Star is not his limit.

Wally was from what I remember approaching Infinite Mass from what I recall. It's stands to reason he would reach Infinite Mass if he kept going as he was already on the way. It's been stated on other occasions that he has approached near Infinite Mass and that wasn't his limit.

If Wally can reach Infinite Mass, he stops Cain.

That's fine. Infinite Mass Punch approaches c, and gains 'near infinite' mass - hitting with the force of a white dwarf star. That's what he's shown so far. That's what I'll use.

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Opposite ends of the Earth?

You're point?

I've seen Wally go faster than light and then some in 2 steps. Light Speed can circle the Earth how many times in moments?

A tenth of a second. And Wally did that, what, back in '01? More recently, he needed to steal the speed of several Speed Force users in order to hit c instantly.

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Light Speed can circle the Earth how many times in moments?
speed of light can go around the earth i believe 7 times in one sec

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Flash will never reach infinite mass.

He can't.


Well tell that to him, when he was approaching Infinite Mass.

Stop being difficult.

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That's fine. Infinite Mass Punch approaches c, and gains 'near infinite' mass - hitting with the force of a white dwarf star. That's what he's shown so far. That's what I'll use.[/B]


Near Infinite?

As I recall, it was stated on panel, that he was approaching Infinite Mass, and not "near" Infinite Mass.

Near Infinite Mass > Hitting with the force of a White Dwarf Star

That's not his limit. He did that easily and he wasn't approaching the same speeds as he was when he was approaching Infinite Mass, so he is obviously capable of much more.

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A tenth of a second. And Wally did that, what, back in '01? More recently, he needed to steal the speed of several Speed Force users in order to hit c instantly. [/B]


He has reached faster than light speeds, in mere moments in the past. They are still valid.

Stupid showings like that, I blame on Dan Didio, and Geoff Johns.

By the time they are done, will be using, Pre and Post Retcon Wally West. I'm being serious.

I can probably count already 5 contradictions with his past showings, since the announcement of Barry Allen's return.

Damn, Silver Age wanking, wankers.

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