1. No prep. No BFR. No equipment.
2. Standard equipment for Cassie. Shulkie gets the Jupiter Suit.
3. I year of prep. Any equipment they have shown to use in the past is available. She-Hulk has access to a professional strength training coach, strength training equipment, and Captain America during prep. Cassie has access to Wonder Woman during prep.
She Hulk doesn't have any feats that support this claim. Cassie, on the other hand, has recently been upgraded to a 100 class brawler with a BFR-ing lasso.
The only time I recall her standing up to Hercules' power, was when she was a lot stronger than him, and this was during her Jupiter era. He was mortal as I recall though.
Why does she need the Jupiter Suit? Does this mean this is She-Hulk during the Jupiter Era? If that's the case, she is already beyond Wonder Girl. Giving her an entire year, to train non stop with Captain America would just be redundant at this point if it's a hand to hand fight, as she would already get ripped apart.
Diana and Cassie are both far better fighters.
They've trained for years upon years upon years in ancient combat.
Shulkie is just a brawler with a few of Cap's tricks up her sleeve.
And while Shulkie would get to strength train and snag the Jupiter Suit in her year, Cassie has access to ALL gear she's used in the past and arguably the best MA in DC. *cough*gauntletsofatlas*cough*
The suit gives her finer control over her strength. And you forget that Cassie will have access to the gauntlets of atlas and her wishing lasso can BFR.
Yea, greater control, meaning it's restricts her strength so she doesn't accidentally break people.
You said she had access to Wonder Woman, and not the equipment. Hence why I said hand to hand fight.
So each number is a different scenario correct? Is She-Hulk in her Jupiter Era of strength for every single scenario?
If that's the case.
1. She-Hulk stomps.
2. Barring Lasso, She-Hulk stomps.
3. If Cassie has the Gauntlets of Atlas, she would be ten times stronger and so on. Still not seeing it, putting her near the level of a She-Hulk who is training non stop with Captain America for a damn year. I mean a couple of weeks here and there of weight lifting, and she jumped up entire levels.
I said any equipment either character has used in the past for 3.
Each number is a different scenario.
You think Shulkie can tag a sonic flying brick?
One with magically indestructible equipment?
Gauntlets make her 20 times stronger, btw (10 for each gauntlet).
Didn't she use only one gauntlet then? Her and Artemis? Well, I really don't care enough to check.
Hence why I said in my original post hand to hand. Outside of her lasso, Cassie is going to have to engage in hand to hand, which is something she is shown to do often. Hell, she attempted to engage Prime hand to hand. If that's the case, she simply gets her head ripped off. She doesn't have the combat speed, to say she can dodge She-Hulk all day as far as I recall.
What mystically indestructible equipment? She doesn't have any bracelets of her own to defend herself. Unless she is allowed the Aegis bracelets for the third scenario.
20 or 10, I always get those confused because of fan girl. Either way, I still don't see them putting them on her level. Cassie doesn't even have any feats currently that would put her at her base far above the 100 ton mark as far as I recall.
Cassie also does Diana's trademark blocking of gunfire bullet for bullet from time to time.
She's blitzed a room full of top tier MA's with ease without any trouble at all too (having to be stopped by GL).
Right now we don't know the exact limits of her powers, but it's been made clear she is base level 100 class. She's no longer powered by Ares, having fully become empowered by her own godhood and birthright. Meaning her previously 80-ish class stats have been upgraded. She's recently been shown to catch falling airplanes stating that she "didn't know she was that strong." Her lasso has also changed, she was able to "wish away" Lycus with it.
That's supposed to be impressive combat speed? It would be, if not you know considering, Batman has dodged while having his back turned.
How can you come to that conclusion by looking at the same scan that I am? Where do you see her being durable enough to take a hit from Prime?
He grabs her by the face, knocks her into Conner, hits her bracelets, then tosses her away like a rag doll while giving his monologue. That isn't being durable enough to take a hit from Prime. A hit would have been Prime punching her in the face.
Again, not impressing me. Batman just deflected a bullet in a recent issue. It's stupid but at this point deflecting bullets is not impressive in comics. That isn't enough combat speed, to show that she can dodge She-Hulk all day etc.
I don't need information on her powers. I have every Titan's issue. That's not important or impressive in anyway. Thing is a Class 100.
We don't understand how it works currently. Her Lasso I mean. I don't recall it being stated. Anyways it's really her only option, sans battle field removal in a scenario where it's allowed. She engages direct hand to hand combat, and she gets her head punched off.
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