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Captain America's shield VS Wonder Woman's bracers

Which is more durable?


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To my knowledge, CA's shield has been dented (if incredibly rarely), and WW's bracers never have.

They're both effectively indestructible even by the standards of comics indestructible stuff, but there's a small difference.


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Magic > physics


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Bracers. Though that's because they're mystical in nature. In practical terms it would be hard to tell the difference since no one under Skyfather is going to have a prayer of breaking them.


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you gotta mess with the molecular structure of the shield. as previously stated, magic > physics

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The shield.

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Bracers. Though that's because they're mystical in nature. In practical terms it would be hard to tell the difference since no one under Skyfather is going to have a prayer of breaking them.


Superman's skyfather level now? Well, I guess that stance would help you sleep at night.


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The shield.



Superman's skyfather level now? Well, I guess that stance would help you sleep at night.
Superman has never dented or broken the bracers.

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Did Superman crush one of them when they fought? I'm referring to the time that Maxwell Lord took possession of Superman. The US Shield was rumpled by incredible forces generated by RK Thor. wasn't it? It was the Rune King right?


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Superman has never dented or broken the bracers.


According to Wonder Woman he would have soon done so in the fight where Circe transformed him.

He broke them in the -now possible- future where Batman/Superman were the leaders of the world.


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According to Wonder Woman he would have soon done so in the fight where Circe transformed him.

He broke them in the -now possible- future where Batman/Superman were the leaders of the world.
He was magically infused and had an amp. Superman is already top of the food chain super hero. Super heroes often talk to themselves to make the situation more dire. Superman did not break the bracers and he wouldn't have. Even Amped. Even Ares could not break the Bracers and he is far beyond Superman. Also, I don't count possible futures. Unless we know what transpired in between times. Like if Zeus removed the enchantment on her bracers. She may have had on regular bracers like the ones most of the Amazons where. Plus Wonder Woman has lightning powers. She didn't have them in that story. So that future is pretty much impossible.

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He was magically infused and had an amp.


Where was this stated? Do I have a page missing in my comic? I thought it was made pretty clear that all Circe did was bring out the rage and so on -from OWAW- outward. He resembled what he felt inside. There was absolutely no mention of an amp as I recall. None at all.

Superman's change was purely cosmetic along with some mental manipulation.

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Superman is already top of the food chain super hero. Super heroes often talk to themselves to make the situation more dire. Superman did not break the bracers and he wouldn't have. Even Amped. Even Ares could not break the Bracers and he is far beyond Superman.


This is just typical butt hurt whining. Next.

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Also, I don't count possible futures. Unless we know what transpired in between times. Like if Zeus removed the enchantment on her bracers. She may have had on regular bracers like the ones most of the Amazons where. Plus Wonder Woman has lightning powers. She didn't have them in that story. So that future is pretty much impossible.


This wasn't just an alternate time line. This was the future which is why I've seen people use that story as evidence or a source of feats.

Lulz. Now your just grasping at straws.

Uh what? Lightning powers? Hold on, are you saying since she didn't throw around lightning in that story it's not valid? The same lightning that was recently revealed under Gail?

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Didn't the bracelts block the Godwave? Yeah, I'll go with her.

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God Wave? When? Never heard of this.


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Where was this stated? Do I have a page missing in my comic? I thought it was made pretty clear that all Circe did was bring out the rage and so on -from OWAW- outward. He resembled what he felt inside. There was absolutely no mention of an amp as I recall. None at all.

Superman's change was purely cosmetic along with some mental manipulation.



This is just typical butt hurt whining. Next.



This wasn't just an alternate time line. This was the future which is why I've seen people use that story as evidence or a source of feats.

Lulz. Now your just grasping at straws.

Uh what? Lightning powers? Hold on, are you saying since she didn't throw around lightning in that story it's not valid? The same lightning that was recently revealed under Gail?

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I don't get the hostility or the butt hurt whining part but, ok. It doesn't matter because the bracers have not been broken. Future timelines do not count. Not unless someone from the present goes there and experiences it. Then it counts for that person only.

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I don't get the hostility or the butt hurt whining part but, ok. It doesn't matter because the bracers have not been broken. Future timelines do not count. Not unless someone from the present goes there and experiences it. Then it counts for that person only.


What's not to get? If your feelings were hurt, you have my sincere apologizes.

Okay, you obviously aren't understanding me. This was the future. Wonder Woman herself new that something was wrong and this was not how things were meant to turn out as I recall which is why she assembled her team. Superman, Batman and the Legion all remember these events I'm pretty sure. It happened. It might not be the most solid evidence but it sure as hell is more conclusive than secondary evidence.

Wonder Woman admitting that Superman would have broken her bracers eventually also debunks the theory that you need to be Skyfather level to damage them. He also broke her wrist but squeezing the bracers.


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Wonder Woman admitting that Superman would have broken her bracers eventually also debunks the theory that you need to be Skyfather level to damage them. He also broke her wrist but squeezing the bracers.


By what was going on, it looked like she was talking about taking too much damage even with the bracers, due to shockwave and such. The bracers showed no, and I mean zero, visible damage, hardly like they were about to break. They have take far more before and since too. It was her who was failing rather than them when she was saying they could only take hits like that for so long.

The wrist thing was above the bracers too, and looked much more like he pulled the wrist back against them until it snapped (dah).


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Question on this:

For those that are saying the bracers are more durable, is that based on the fact that when she crosses them it raises a mystical shield around her which is generated by, but independent of, the bracers themselves? I ask because has Superman (or anyone) ever actually punched her directly on a bracer when she didn't have them crossed in front of her and was bracing for the attack? And if so, can I see a scan of the results?


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According to Wonder Woman he would have soon done so in the fight where Circe transformed him.

He broke them in the -now possible- future where Batman/Superman were the leaders of the world.


According to Cap his shield might not take another karate chop from Mandarin smile

But yeah, I also believe Steve's shield is more durable.


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According to Cap his shield might not take another karate chop from Mandarin smile

But yeah, I also believe Steve's shield is more durable.



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Question on this:

For those that are saying the bracers are more durable, is that based on the fact that when she crosses them it raises a mystical shield around her which is generated by, but independent of, the bracers themselves? I ask because has Superman (or anyone) ever actually punched her directly on a bracer when she didn't have them crossed in front of her and was bracing for the attack? And if so, can I see a scan of the results?


Powergirl hits an uncrossed bracer

When they aren't crossed, they still don't break, but stuff like shockwave and so on can be an issue for impacts (not really energy attacks though).

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