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Mindship
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Forces

Rank 'em, from potentially* most powerful, down.

Power Cosmic
Power Primordial
Odinforce
Speedforce
Astroforce
Magic



* This way maybe we can avoid the "depends on the user" factor.


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What exactly is the Power Primordial?


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odin force is magic first.
but any way magic is the most powerful here


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The Odin Force is magical/cosmic/divine energy all at once.


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What exactly is the Power Primordial?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elders_of_the_Universe

(scroll down)

Anyway, after Odinforce and magic, how do the rest stack up?


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"Potentially" I'd put the Power Cosmic and the Astro Force at the top. Power Cosmic because it's supposedly the power to manipulate the lifeblood of the universe and Astro Force because it's an extension of the Source itself, its wrath made manifest.

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power cosmic/ magic in a three way tie for first.
Each let's you do pretty much anything and are types of power limited only by the being utilizing it. You can alter reality... Travel through time... Etc on universal scale. Or even multiversal scale. I chose these two as tied for highest based upon showings by people who have wielded the power. Eternity galactus infinity for power cosmic... Lord order and master chaos and dormammu for magic...

power primordial is next as tenbrous and aegis are examples of that power.

Odin force is next for it's ability to do anything the others can do but on a smaller scale... Odin force is skyfather level because it is the most Odin could do..

Speed force I list last because It has the smallest range of powers...

Astroforce I don't know enough about in comparison to the others
so I didn't place it


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Then there's the Power Essential from MC2... which is a modified Power Cosmic.


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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The Odin Force is magical/cosmic/divine energy all at once.
what exactly is divine power? imo its magic


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power cosmic/ magic in a three way tie for first.
Each let's you do pretty much anything and are types of power limited only by the being utilizing it. You can alter reality... Travel through time... Etc on universal scale. Or even multiversal scale. I chose these two as tied for highest based upon showings by people who have wielded the power. Eternity galactus infinity for power cosmic... Lord order and master chaos and dormammu for magic...

power primordial is next as tenbrous and aegis are examples of that power.

Odin force is next for it's ability to do anything the others can do but on a smaller scale... Odin force is skyfather level because it is the most Odin could do..

Speed force I list last because It has the smallest range of powers...

Astroforce I don't know enough about in comparison to the others
so I didn't place it
power cosmic is only galactus and heralds. Eternity and infinity and other abstracts is "cosmic power"
power cosmic=/=cosmic power
its also stated the galactus is the source of power cosmic anyways


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what exactly is divine power? imo its magic


Divine is godly power. Essentially, it is close to magic, often being the same thing, but is also described as something beyond it at times as well.


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Divine is godly power. Essentially, it is close to magic, often being the same thing, but is also described as something beyond it at times as well.
so toaa would be divine power?


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TOAA and other beyond-eternity forces tend to be described as more cosmic, though at that level they can do any power they want.

Divine power is Odin, Zeus, Gaia, and those lot. Ancient and powerful being above normal magic.


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Re: Forces

Power Cosmic- Most powerful along with magic
Power Primordial- Second most powerful
Odinforce- Lease powerful
Speedforce- Fourth most powerful
Astroforce- IDK
Magic- Most powerful along with the Power Cosmic

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Where was it said that galactus is the only higher up person to use the "power cosmic"


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Originally posted by rotiart
Where was it said that galactus is the only higher up person to use the "power cosmic"
one of his comics, it said he is also the source of power cosmic. iirc, galactusishere might know if im correct


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I own just aabout all ff4 silver surfer and galactus appearances prior to 2000. Name the issue or don't go spouting off stuff you heard third hand from someone


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or hecK name the approximate storyline and I'll go find it


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It was stated in one issue where Galactus was reverted back to Galan. It was FF 500-ish. Don't exactly remember. Maybe GISH or Mr M can help out?

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Originally posted by rotiart
I own just aabout all ff4 silver surfer and galactus appearances prior to 2000. Name the issue or don't go spouting off stuff you heard third hand from someone
i read it but i forgot what issue


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