TheTyrant
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Galactus with the Ultimate Nullifier vs Lucifer Morningstar
CIS, CIP, and PIS are off.
Go by actual showings and feats please.
May 25th, 2010 01:47 AM
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Galactus.
UN can nullify anything short of IG
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May 25th, 2010 01:48 AM
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Galactus isn't nullifying Lucifer. Not any more than he'd nullify Tribunal.
May 25th, 2010 01:49 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Black bolt z
Galactus.
UN can nullify anything short of IG
The IG really isn't that high on the cosmic scale compared who we're talking about.
May 25th, 2010 01:50 AM
Johnny Sorrow
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Lucifer is too powerful and too intelligent to let himself be nullified (if such a thing were even possible, considering his power).
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May 25th, 2010 01:51 AM
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I said go by actual showings. Lucifer hasn't done all that much really.
May 25th, 2010 01:51 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by TheTyrant
I said go by actual showings. Lucifer hasn't done all that much really.
Creating a multiverse is worse than nullifying Abraxas?
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May 25th, 2010 01:53 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
Creating a multiverse is worse than nullifying Abraxas?
Or tanking the energies that provided the raw material for said multiverse?
Debating on whether or not LT or other multiverse class entity can beat Lucifer, I could see, but he seems to get underrated a lot... I mean, putting the Infinity Gauntlet above him now? Come on!
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May 25th, 2010 01:54 AM
TheTyrant
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Of course it is.
Richards with the nullifier destroyed AND recreated an INFINITE multi-verse.
Lucifer also needed Michael' power to recreate that universe.
May 25th, 2010 01:59 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by TheTyrant
Of course it is.
Richards with the nullifier destroyed AND recreated an INFINITE multi-verse.
Lucifer also needed Michael' power to recreate that universe.
Destroying and recreating the Marvel multiverse isn't as impressive considering the multiverse was basically reset to the way it was before. When Lucifer created his multiverse, he did so from the ground up. He had to build all the basics from scratch: the four fundamental forces, the way time flows (which he changed), the entire physics of the multiverse stem directly from his decisions. The Nullifier has never shown the ability to create universes independent from this one.
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May 25th, 2010 02:07 AM
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If you buy into that bs, which I personally don't.
The LT would've, and should've stepped in if Reed actually wiped out the ENTIRE Marvel Multiverse, which calls the feat suspect.
And regardless, the incomplete IG defeated the UN. Beings above the IG, like Lucifer and Living Tribunal, should certainly be as capable.
May 25th, 2010 02:08 AM
TheTyrant
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The LT didn't step in with Jaspers or HoM Scarlet Witch or Fury or IG(at first)...so? He goes by the 'survival of the fittest' rule.
And there is on-panel proof that the UN destroyed and recreated the marvel multi-verse.
Observe:
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May 25th, 2010 02:31 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
Destroying and recreating the Marvel multiverse isn't as impressive considering the multiverse was basically reset to the way it was before. When Lucifer created his multiverse, he did so from the ground up. He had to build all the basics from scratch: the four fundamental forces, the way time flows (which he changed), the entire physics of the multiverse stem directly from his decisions. The Nullifier has never shown the ability to create universes independent from this one.
He still used up a good portion of Michael's power to achieve that feat.
May 25th, 2010 02:32 AM
Johnny Sorrow
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by TheTyrant
He still used up a good portion of Michael's power to achieve that feat.
It's his only weakness: he cannot create something from nothing. Michael exists to balance that out. The Nullifier can't create something from nothing either, and Lucifer has the entire universe (and more) to use against Galactus.
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May 25th, 2010 02:39 AM
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I would say that Lucifer would be able to defeat Galactus even with the Ultimate Nullifier according to the statements of his power and intelligence. But based upon the actual feats displayed, i'm going with Galactus.
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May 25th, 2010 02:40 AM
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Lucy would just laugh and *****-slap Big G for nullifying his creation.
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May 25th, 2010 03:55 AM
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Galactus, easily.
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May 25th, 2010 05:09 AM
Rage.Of.Olympus
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Ultimate Nullifier > Spears > Lucifer
Amirite Quanchi?
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May 25th, 2010 05:13 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Ultimate Nullifier > Spears > Lucifer
Amirite Quanchi?
Is this you attempting humor? Fail. Un erases him quite easily.
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May 25th, 2010 05:29 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by TheTyrant
The LT didn't step in with Jaspers or HoM Scarlet Witch or Fury or IG(at first)...so? He goes by the 'survival of the fittest' rule.
And there is on-panel proof that the UN destroyed and recreated the marvel multi-verse.
Observe:
Nowhere in those scans does it say the combined multiverse was nullified/restored.
Also, here's what it says on Marvels official wiki:
http://marvel.com/universe/Abraxas
quote: Reed nullified the universe itself. The universe restored itself to its previous normality, with Abraxas nowhere to be found. The Silver Surfer and Namorita were returned to life.
THE universe. One.
And regardless, there's still an incomplete Infinity Gauntlet deflecting the Nullifier.
Nullifier < incomplete IF < Living Tribunal = Lucifer Morningstar.
Give or take.
May 25th, 2010 06:15 AM
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