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How far could Spiderman Toss?

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Spiderman is at his best strength, pissed off or whatever it takes, he is utilizing his full strength here. At any time in his career bar Captian Universe of course. And no Symbiote Spiderman did not have improved strength, so lets not discuss that.

None of these characters are resisting in any way, they just lie there. If they are too large for him to wrap his arms around, they have a harness to assist him in their throw. The harness is magical and adds no weight.

This takes place in a baseball stadium. Would they land somewhere on the field, on the bleachers, or would it be a "home run"? How many could he home run? He is not exhausted after any toss.

The people he is throwing (not necessarily in lowest to highest weight):

1. Daredevil
2. Batman
3. Wolverine
4. Lobo
5. Colossus
6. Juggernaut
7. Hulk
8. Thor
9.Superman
10. Thanos

Discuss.


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1. Daredevil
2. Batman
3. Wolverine
4. Lobo
5. Colossus
6. Juggernaut
7. Hulk
8. Thor
9.Superman
10. Thanos

Assuming Spiderman's better/upper range conventional strength (more than 10 tons, to a range of, say, 12-20 or so, which represents him pushing it/being super-pissed), then the math works out fairly easily, for the most part:

The more "conventionally" weighted people (Daredevil, Batman, Wolverine) could be sent out of the ball park, theoretically, with enough spin on Pete's part (covering a flat arc range of about 200-400 yards, depending on wind and such).

The heavier/somewhat more "immovable" do to nature of powers/status, etc, such as Thor, Superman, and Lobo, would make it to the stands, with "just over the fence" and "nose-bleed section" depending on outside circumstances.

The "vehicle-heavy" brutes (Colossus, Hulk, Juggernaut, and Thanos) would range from second base to the fence, depending on circumstances and specific weight (which has some variableness to them, depending on what point in their existence you choose); but still, in general, top o' the diamond to outer field or so, and not beyond 100 yards, even with the most generous allowances.

How's that sound?


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Not too bad and thanks for the reply. I'd say Spiderman's best feats put him over the 50 range though and close to the 100 range, even though he's only done them a few time (like swinging a tank like a baseball bat). Superman is only about what 220 lbs or something if I'm not mistaken, does he have a different density? Thor is what about 600? Not sure about Lobo's actual weight.


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spiderman lifts 20,000 pounds these people weight like 250-500 pounds

1. Daredevil- atleast 5 mile s
2. Batman-see above
3. Wolverine-1 mile
4. Lobo dont know
5. Colossus- 1/2 mile
6. Juggernaut 1/4 mile
7. Hulk 1/4 mile
8. Thor- 1/2 mile
9.Superman
10. Thanos

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Yea it's harder to find "big guys" without them being "too big".

There is an art in throwing tough and some characters would provide more wind resistance or fall better. But based on this would you say he bfr's said characters?


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Yea it's harder to find "big guys" without them being "too big".

There is an art in throwing tough and some characters would provide more wind resistance or fall better. But based on this would you say he bfr's said characters?
in a fight no. they wouldnt let spider man lift them


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no one is getting thrown anywhere near out of the park.

throwing batman for spiderman is not easier than throwing a baseball for a strong human.

a strong human cannot throw a baseball (which is aerodynamic) out of the park. Spiderman will not be able to throw anyone out of the park. He can throw daredevil and batman upwards of 100 feet or more.

Guys like hulk and juggernaut, I doubt spiderman can throw them more than 20 feet...as it would be hard to even grip them properly.


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Pete doing the 50-100 range is outside the norm, and is reflective of serious circumstantial/setting/writer influences, and really shouldn't be used in this question, IMO.

Colossus-Big C: You might want to re-think your math/physics there, as a being capable of benching 10-20 tons is *not* the same as a projective force of the same relative power. Under most circumstances, the best Spiderman could hope for would be clearing about 1/4 mile or so with the lower weight ranges (which is included in my 200-400 yard estimate). Half a mile is *possible*, but unlikely. (And yes, I am keeping in mind that we are talking about comic-book characters/physics, but as the question was posed in a fairly "play it straight" manner, that is how I replied...)


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no one is getting thrown anywhere near out of the park.

throwing batman for spiderman is not easier than throwing a baseball for a strong human.

a strong human cannot throw a baseball (which is aerodynamic) out of the park. Spiderman will not be able to throw anyone out of the park. He can throw daredevil and batman upwards of 100 feet or more.

Guys like hulk and juggernaut, I doubt spiderman can throw them more than 20 feet...as it would be hard to even grip them properly.

grip is nothing. colossus threw a 50foot sentinel into the atmosphere


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StarScream: I think you didn't read the original post correctly. Re-read it. Relative size is not major issue to the poster's mind, as he already compensated for it, and I think he was just looking for a "comic-book dramatic but still fairly grounded result" answer to the above listed characters.


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unless you think its easier for spiderman to throw batman than for you to throw a baseball, you would realize he can't throw anyone beyond 150 feet.


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in a fight no. they wouldnt let spider man lift them
I know that, most of them wouldn't get thrown that far, but he could "lift them".
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no one is getting thrown anywhere near out of the park.

throwing batman for spiderman is not easier than throwing a baseball for a strong human.

a strong human cannot throw a baseball (which is aerodynamic) out of the park. Spiderman will not be able to throw anyone out of the park. He can throw daredevil and batman upwards of 100 feet or more.

Guys like hulk and juggernaut, I doubt spiderman can throw them more than 20 feet...as it would be hard to even grip them properly.
He could do it by the leg..... The crocodile is heavier than the human. Spiderman is far stronger than the comparison to a human and a baseball.
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Pete doing the 50-100 range is outside the norm, and is reflective of serious circumstantial/setting/writer influences, and really shouldn't be used in this question, IMO.

Colossus-Big C: You might want to re-think your math/physics there, as a being capable of benching 10-20 tons is *not* the same as a projective force of the same relative power. Under most circumstances, the best Spiderman could hope for would be clearing about 1/4 mile or so with the lower weight ranges (which is included in my 200-400 yard estimate). Half a mile is *possible*, but unlikely. (And yes, I am keeping in mind that we are talking about comic-book characters/physics, but as the question was posed in a fairly "play it straight" manner, that is how I replied...)
I see what you mean. I consider Peter about a class 10-20 myself, however like a human he is capable of great feats under duress. He flipped a subcar with the flick of a finger. Considering a human's strength can increase like 5-10x in an adrenalized state, he would be capable of it for a short period time. Thus he could do those feats for a split second. It is not his normal "strength" at all. That's his "save Aunt May/Mary Jane" strength. Hence why I said "best strength ever at any time".

But people do resist wind differently than say a baseball or a bullet so that must be taken into equation.


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StarScream: I think you didn't read the original post correctly. Re-read it. Relative size is not major issue to the poster's mind, as he already compensated for it, and I think he was just looking for a "comic-book dramatic but still fairly grounded result" answer to the above listed characters.
ah I see. I would increase my distances by doubling them perhaps, but I still don't see homeruns happening.


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unless you think its easier for spiderman to throw batman than for you to throw a baseball, you would realize he can't throw anyone beyond 150 feet.


a human lifts atleast 100 pounds a base ball weights 2 pounds
spider man lifts 20,000-40,000 pounds batman wiehgts 250pounds

you cant compare that


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100x100 is 10,000

2x100 is 200, and baseballs do resist the air better. Then again it isn't really comparable in other aspects. Since nobody of human size could toss another adult human much farther than about 20 feet or so, and that is with a harness.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QicKi5k068


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a human can not throw another human 20 feet.
maybe 5 feet if he is lucky especialy if there heavier than them


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Look at the vid, how far would you say that is? Of course the guy is bigger, but still.


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Look at the vid, how far would you say that is? Of course the guy is bigger, but still.
thats about 10 feet


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Is it? I didn't see an official number and I guesstimated. Is there an official recording of the distance? Looked more like 20 to me.


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Is it? I didn't see an official number and I guesstimated. Is there an official recording of the distance? Looked more like 20 to me.
i think it was about 12 - 15 feet


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