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Cross Genre Match #12: Rock Lee vs Karate Kid

Rock Lee from Naruto

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Karate Kid (Val Armorr) from Legion of Superheroes.

They fight in a WalMart parking lot.

Scenario One: Pre-Crisis Karate Kid

Scenario Two: Post Zero-Hour Karate Kid

Scenario Three: Current Karate Kid


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Isn't karate kid just a flying martial artist?


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I'm giving this to rock lee... he is faster, stronger, more durable, and is just as good of a fight as Karate Kid.

Rock Lee 6 or 7/10


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Originally posted by amnesia
Isn't karate kid just a flying martial artist?

That's really selling him short. Probably KK's weakest version (Post Crisis KK who was suffering from amnesia, groggy from just waking up, and sick from a virus) fought Batman and was getting the better of him when Black Lightning cheap-shotted him. The strongest version of Karate Kid fought a PC Kryptonian and held his own.


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So he do have superhuman attributes?


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Rock Lee. KK beats/hangs in there with meta's with no martial arts skill and martial artist's who aren't meta... he's not beating owning a meta with high end MA skill.


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Rock Lee. KK beats/hangs in there with meta's with no martial arts skill and martial artist's who aren't meta... he's not beating owning a meta with high end MA skill.


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show some feats of rock lee...

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Rock Lee. KK beats/hangs in there with meta's with no martial arts skill and martial artist's who aren't meta... he's not beating owning a meta with high end MA skill.

So low level meta stats+martial arts skill is more dangerous in your eyes than planet busting strength and FTL speed? Because PC KK fought guys with that kind of power.

Also note that all versions of Karate Kid have legion flight rings. Flight>jumping on tree branches


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Show me some feats of Karate Kid, seriously, how can a guy with MA skills spare against a PC Kryptonian? No human could last a second against superman, no matter how much martial arts training you've got.


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Show me some feats of Karate Kid, seriously, how can a guy with MA skills spare against a PC Kryptonian? No human could last a second against superman, no matter how much martial arts training you've got.

How could a supposed human like Classic Kingpin manhandle a Class 10 brick with superhuman speed and agilty like Spider-Man?

Comic book humans are capable of way more than IRL humans as a rule.


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Major PIS IMO. (Actually not biased in this, I'm not a narutrad)

He either have superhuman stats or he doesn't.

Anyway, off to bed. Continue tomorrow.


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Major PIS IMO. (Actually not biased in this, I'm not a narutrad)

He either have superhuman stats or he doesn't.

Anyway, off to bed. Continue tomorrow.

It'd be PIS if Karate Kid wasn't doing it on a consistent basis.

Like with Classic Kingpin it's unexplained superpowers. IIRC Karate Kid was once said to have the power of "Super-Karate".

I'm pretty sure Rock Lee is in the same boat, he's a guy who sucked at Ninjutsu so he compensated by training his body and skills so that he became the Naruto-verse's resident Badass-Not-So-Normal. Or does he do some kind of Chi (Chakra in this case) amping like Iron Fist?


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So low level meta stats+martial arts skill is more dangerous in your eyes than planet busting strength and FTL speed? Because PC KK fought guys with that kind of power.
that's not what i said at all.

KK fought those guys 'cause he used his MA skill to parlay their attacks. I don't care how great your physical advatages are when your opponent is >>>>>>>> the fighter you are. PC Kryptonian flying at him with the intent to use a simple punch is shit compared to a someone speeding at you who actually knows how to fight.

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that's not what i said at all.

KK fought those guys 'cause he used his MA skill to parlay their attacks. I don't care how great your physical advatages are when your opponent is >>>>>>>> the fighter you are. PC Kryptonian flying at him with the intent to use a simple punch is shit compared to a someone speeding at you who actually knows how to fight.

So to reiterate you do think that fighting skill is more of a threat than planet busting strength and FTL speed?

Because I know you're not trying to imply that Rock Lee has physical stats that even come close to a PC Kryptonian. So you must be saying that his skill makes him more dangerous.


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He isnt beating Rock Lee, no matter WHO he has fought. I'm pretty sure if you put Rock Lee in the DC and Marvel universe, he would have similar, hell, probably better feats. Everyone has the feats that you have mentioned under their belts... look at Cap.. He has fought Thor and had a good showing, Hulk, Thunder strike, Wonderman, skrulls powered with marvels best, and the list goes on but Rock Lee would DESTROY Cap.

Using feats, Rock Lee>>KK. He has good showings against Kryptonians but he also have regular showings against people in his tier like Batman, etc...


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Originally posted by Omega Vision
So to reiterate you do think that fighting skill is more of a threat than planet busting strength and FTL speed?

Because I know you're not trying to imply that Rock Lee has physical stats that even come close to a PC Kryptonian. So you must be saying that his skill makes him more dangerous.
Rock Lee is way more dangerous IN A FIGHT AGAINST KK, than ANY Kryptonian who chooses to go h2h with him.

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He isnt beating Rock Lee, no matter WHO he has fought. I'm pretty sure if you put Rock Lee in the DC and Marvel universe, he would have similar, hell, probably better feats. Everyone has the feats that you have mentioned under their belts... look at Cap.. He has fought Thor and had a good showing, Hulk, Thunder strike, Wonderman, skrulls powered with marvels best, and the list goes on but Rock Lee would DESTROY Cap.

Using feats, Rock Lee>>KK. He has good showings against Kryptonians but he also have regular showings against people in his tier like Batman, etc...

None of the people you listed are in any way interchangeable or comparable with PC Superboy. no expression

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Rock Lee is way more dangerous IN A FIGHT AGAINST KK, than ANY Kryptonian who chooses to go h2h with him.

Really? Imagine fighting someone a million times stronger and faster than you. That's KK's experience fighting PC Superboy.


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So to reiterate you do think that fighting skill is more of a threat than planet busting strength and FTL speed?

Because I know you're not trying to imply that Rock Lee has physical stats that even come close to a PC Kryptonian. So you must be saying that his skill makes him more dangerous.


Show us a PC Kryptonian flying at KK at the speed of light. PC has fought NUMEROUS of people, slow people at that and you cant use ALL of their battles as them flying at high speeds when 7 times out of 10, they rarely if ever used speed during combat.

Show us them battling KK at light speed and prove that it was light speed combat.


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None of the people you listed are in any way interchangeable or comparable with PC Superboy. no expression


Really? Imagine fighting someone a million times stronger and faster than you. That's KK's experience fighting PC Superboy.


You dont get what I am telling you.

All of those people are>>>>Cap, hell, most of them are Heralds and Cap has either OWNED them or stood his ground. With that said, no matter what Cap has done against people out of his tier, Rock Lee would crush him because physically, Rock Lee>>>>>>Captain America.


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