X men win if only because you just can't kill wolverine well none of the titans any way. And if Jean has the P word well... If feel bad for the titans. Really bad.
Raven doesn't have the feats to face off against Jean. Even if you throw her a bone and let her tap into Trigon's power, Dark Raven hasn't done anything on Jean's level. I'm a big Raven/Titan's fan and she just can't eat stars and contend with Universal threats like Jean can.
Maybe. If the GL would let that happen. GL's shields can resist telepathic bolts. Plus I'm sure Raven has faced powerful telepaths before. I gotta check something.
She's never resisted any telepaths unless you count Jericho, who was freaked out by her mind one time (Raven was falling under Trigon's influence) and he actually overcame her in another instance. Aside from that, Jean can just tk crush the Lantern and move on. Phoenix really isn't something herald levelers can take on.
Ok. Did some research. Raven can definitely mess with Jean's mind via her soul. How does Jean defend against soul attacks? Raven does seem to have some sort of Tp powers. I think they could take each other out.
Raven has never displayed the power you're insinuating she has.
She's not really a telepath, she's an empath. Before her resurrection she could force others to feel emotions, read emotions, and heal non-fatal wounds. She also did random psychic stuff like project illusions one time on Slade's son and communicate with her mind.
HOWEVER, since her resurrection she has not displayed the ability to use her empathy in any offensive way. She gained flight and metahuman physicality, but she has to rely on the soul-self and teleportation now.
In order for Raven to be able to attack Jean's soul, she would have to be able to deal with the wrath of the Phoenix Force and Jean's own innate fortitude (hellooooo one of the most powerful straight up telepaths EVER). Problem is, she won't be able to. Raven is kind of weak these days. People like Supergirl have been breaking out of the soul-self with nothing but willpower.
Why would Jean Grey have the PF in this thread? I didn't say she had it. It's also just as plausible that Kid Flash could KO Jean before she raises any shields. Plus I am unaware of any weaker Raven. If you refer to evil Supergirl, she seemed weird. She was doing stuff she shouldn't have been doing.
Even Evil Future Raven (who could empathically render the entire West Coast emotionless because she's constantly feeding off them, while being half a country away) wouldn't be a threat to current Jean Grey.
Why the hell not? Its part of her the god damn PF as far this goes in less the rules say she don't have it she has it. Inless she lost it recently but last I heard she was dead.
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