In this senario, Surter has Twilight amped with the Casket of Ancient Winters; he is attempting to light Twilight with the Eternal Flame and from there destroy the nine worlds...
Opposing him is Odin, Thanos, and Loki; Thanos is using the orb he took from DP Tyrant to amp up, Odin is weilding Gungnir, and Loki has the Norn Stones...
Battle takes place in the Heart of Asgard, HOWEVER (as in the original story), the Asgardians are away on Earth fighting Surters legions and Surters proximity to the Eternal Flame is allowing him to simutaneously replenish his strength constantly and suppress Odins ability to amp up...
Unlike the orginal story, however, there is no way to "de-amp" Twilight as the Casket of Ancient Winters itself has been hidden away by Surter (and remember, Twilight was de-amped by the time Odin, Thor, and Loki combined to triple team him)...
So now my question is this, how long can the team keep Surter at bay before he unites Twilight to the Eternal Flame and sets fire to the 9 worlds?
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Last edited by TheLordofMurder on May 19th, 2011 at 07:23 PM
The closer Surtur got to the Eternal Flame, the more powerful he became and his strength was constantly replenished. Odin was stalemating the demon, but Surtur would have won eventually and the All Father had his Scepter, which allowed him to channel his true power. Not an ability Gungnir possesses as far as I know. Without the power to block the connection to the Eternal Flame or enter his full powered form, Odin would eventually fall or be trapped by the full power of the Casket of Ancient Winters. Without him, the team would fall and Surtur would burn down the Universe.
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Last edited by Rage.Of.Olympus on May 19th, 2011 at 07:45 PM
Too powerful and Thanos' recent upgrade leads me to believe he comfortably solos if he so chooses. I've also seen Loki himself challenge Surtur before on his own so you put these three together it's spite.
What feats does Thanos have to suggest that he has any prayer against the beast that Surter is in this senario? Any damage sustained...any power used...immediately replenishes...what is Thanos going to do against that!?
As for Loki, only his excellent abilities as an illusionist allowed him to draw out the fight against Surter given how powerful he was in the original story...but rest assured, Surter was never in danger of losing to Loki at any point.
Also, keep in mind that Surter was so powerful at this point in the original story that he was suppressing Odins ability to amp in the heart of his own realm...
And thats with Odin weilding his most powerful artifact...
Surter is a beast while weilding Twilight amped with the Casket of Ancient Winters; no way in hell does the team spite him...
Hell, I would have thought you'd be looking to forget that travesty ever happened to Thanos? being used, abused, dumped on and humiliated like that. forced to be the kid with chickenpox, chasing after all the others in the playground...
I fail to see exactly how it was an upgrade? It's like saying going from being alive to being a zombie is "an upgrade"...
1.Easily overpowered the Maker who had infinite power.
2.While mindless and naked slaughtered billions on ucot's homeworld.
3.Was capable of bringing death to a universe where the concept had no meaning.
4.Easily dominated Mar-vell who oneshotted Magus to death by mistake.
Thanos' actions resulting in the death of an entire universe is what occurred.
Let's be honest here Thanos came out on top once again. he did what starlord, the celestials, and galactus could not.
Now if you want to discuss embarrassing showings I could point to Hulk's rape at the hands of Zeus.
1) The Maker may have possessed "infinite" power, but it didnt use it against Thanos; it had a nervous breakdown while fighting him and wasnt attacking as forcefully as it was capable of and you know it...
Surter wont have this problem and would take a nasty dump on Thanos's face here...
2) This version of Surter would easily duplicate Thanos's feat of destruction, but kill those billions far faster than Thanos ever could; Surter busted a galaxy simply forging Twilight...Thanos slaying billions is nothing compared to that.
3) That wont have any effect here as Death already exists in 616; it wont stop Surter from either trapping him with the Caskets Power or simply beating his skull in...
4) Mar-vell is nothing compared to this version of Surter; this version of Surter is beyond a High Skyfather...
Just face facts, Thanos cant stand up to Surter in this senario; he can draw it out and make a show of it (as Loki did), but he inevitably gets defeated by the Demon of Flame...
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