Alternate question. What were the issue numbers of the time Strange trapped Surfer in a bubble, and the time Strange reacted to Surfer?
I've been looking for years, and still can't find it.
Help would be greatly appreciated.
Classic Strange is > Herald, even the best of them, which Norrin is. Some of his feats could be argued to be at or beyond Skyfather, though the latter would be pushing it.
And for the issues, if he stills checks his KMC PM box, you might try to contact long pig. Dude knew more about Strange than anyone that currently roams the boards, at least that I know of.
depends on the scenario. a random flare up I'd give to Surfer, purely on account of speed and immediate power (Strange needs to summon power from his gods, in order to be a force to contend with).
a showdown, I'd give to Strange because he can call upon serious near-abstract powers and be ready to face off Surfer.
of course if Surfer decided to call on Galactus ... Surfer and Galactus would slaughter Strange and his masters.
Classic Strange generally had auto-shields up, which are displayed on at least a few occasions. And while some of his power is given to him via various gods, he has a fair amount of intrinsic power through his studies that he can call upon at a whim.
Certainly a quick throw-down gives more of an edge to Surfer than a prep scenario, but Strange could win in either case....though I'd guess that he'd drop from 10/10 to maybe 7 or 8/10 in the "ready, go!" situation.
I'd say it's an even split, personally. Surfer isn't immune to magic, but he doesn't have a problem dealing with it either. It's not his silver bullet (pun intended). Surfer could dispatch Strange before he could mount a decent offensive given the power brought to bear and the speed at which Surfer operates. Depends on if you think Strange would go defensive or offensive first. If he goes defensive he likely wins (assuming he can protect himself before Surfer's attack connects). If he goes offensive Surfer wins in a quick draw.
Strange has mentioned in several Defenders issues that Surfer wields more raw power than he does. I think if Surfer was really trying his hardest to take down Strange, he would.
Then again, if Strange loses his whole "kharma complex," then I think he'd be able to snuff Surfer out of the Universe in the beginning stages of the fight.
Words and feats often speak differently. Superman has cock-stroked every JLA member at some point too by saying they're > he is in many ways. Then when the sh*t goes down, Kal's the one holding the fort.
Classic Strange's feats > Surfer's. Hell, Strange knocked Surfer's boss unconscious at one point, which by itself is far more than Norrin could boast.
It's posted in his respect thread. I don't know the exact issue. But he knocked him out over Manhattan, then had to stop him from falling before he crashed into the city. I forget how he did that, but the knocking out part is the important part. Even if it was hungry Galactus (I don't think it was, but my recollection of it isn't 100%) it's still >> anything Surfer could muster. Hell, Thanos couldn't do that to a severely weakened Galactus, and he's always written as >> Surfer.
but that sort of says that Strange can do nothing directly towards Galactus, only affect him mentally as shown and that Galactus was a weak Galactus, though I'm not positive what happened afterwards.
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