Kimimaro's the only one from the Sound 5 who can fight at the level of those 4 Jounins. The rest are of little consequence.
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Part 1 Gai and/or Part 1 Kakashi would be able to take out Kimimaro. Part 1 Gai is most likely very close in power to Part 2 Gai after all.
The other two could take care of the Sound 4.
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I'd like to note that a rather featless Kurenai has a 4.5 in handseals, a 4 in speed, a 4 in taijutsu, a 4 in ninjutsu, and a mo-fuggin 5 in genjutsu.
Her overall score is not very far below Guy's.
I'd say that Kurenai can take them all on...but not solo. There is that much of a disparity between genjutsu skill. I think she can shut them all down but one is bound to break free.
The anime shows more of her skills.
Her biggest weakness, IMO, is her lack of stamina.
I motion to make this a thread where the Sound 6 fight Asuma and Kurneai with Kakashi and Guy coming in as back up later on in the fight.
Seriously, Kakashi and Guy are very above the Sound 6, with Kimmimaro being the only one to really stand a chance against either. At least having them come into the battle late would probably give the Sound 6 some advantage. Least in numbers. And in Curse Seal 2, aside from Raikiri, I don't think they have one hit moves that would kill the Sound 6 right off(note: Not counting Gates of course.)
How is Guy, with all of hi strength, supposed to do shit against Kimimaro's bones that are supposed to be as hard or harder than steel?
Seems that even Gaara was about to die against ol' Kimi...if Kimi himself hadn't died of his disease, first.
I don't see physical means of killing Mr. Maru (lol). Of course, I am only referring to Naruto-based physical means. Seems that he could withstand even the asteroid impact just as well as anyone else that did (if rubber was enough...a mass of bones as hard as or harder than steel would easily stand up to it).
Kakashi or Gai doesn't solo with Kimimaro around. He's rather impressive, and the other 4 are at the least useful support with solid teamwork.
But yea, the jonin as a group win quite solidly. The Sound 4 had to activate their cursed seals and got kinda tired when facing two special jonin, while this is the jonin *elite*.
The way I see it going- Gai fights two of the physical Sound Four at once and does fine, maybe bursting out the gates but not having to go past peacock. Asuma beats a third. Kurenai shows Flute Girl what genjutsu really is.
And Kakashi dances with Kimimaro until they show up and beat up on him.
I think Raikiri might be able to penetrate it. Maybe Asuma's wind blades too, at least a little... and I wonder if Afternoon Tiger is strong enough to hurt, considering it's much stronger than what he has been hit with.
With part 2 Jonin, we have kamui to throw into the mix, but considering the numbers I'd say Kakashi's not likely to bust that out (or Gai use Afternoon Tiger for similar reasons) and they'll just work together and use genjutsu and such to win.
The OP didn't specify, but I say we limit this to Part 1 Jounin. Though really, it's only Kakashi that is affected, since the others seem to be the same.
Unless of course, you limit it even further, and say that Gai cannot release 6-7 Gates since he never did so in Part 1, or Asuma cannot use the jutsu he demonstrated in Part 2.
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The thread seems to imply they can use CS2 without negative consequences. Something they did not have against those two guys they beat up.
You're not accouting for 1 of the Sound 6. Sakon and Ukon are still two different people. If Joribi faces off against Asuma, the latter could get trapped in the Earth Rock thingy. And I don't think he could break out easily. And I'm not seeing Kurenai being so superior to Tayuya in genjutsu. We have little to go by though.
They fight as one, though, and thus'll be against the same opponent.
I'd probably put Asuma against them, to be on the safe side, while Gai handles the other two.
Oh, I'm pretty sure Asuma would destroy him with speed and skill.
I don't put much odds of trapping him, when the original team was trapped, they were distracted by shuriken attack while Jirobo signed.
Even if she's only a bit better, she's way higher in other stats. It's a genjutsu war where if the genjutsu side stalemates, Kurenai destroys her with taijutsu or ninjutsu.
Well this is assuming they know their opponents abilities.
I'd see Spidey and Fatty taking on Asuma, while Sakon and Ukon fight Guy.
CS2 is pretty fast and durable. It shouldn't be too easy for him.
Spidey forms the distraction while Fatty does the plan. Asuma lacks the means to know where Spidey is easily.
I'd believe this if I didn't think Sound genjutsu was more potent than visually based. And CS2 would probably let her compete with the taijutsu. Idk any ninjutsu Kurenai has.
The twins would not last long against Guy Asuma'd be able to play defense until reinforcements came up.
CS2 seems to focus on your speciality. Even in CS2, Jirobo didn't seem too fast, just a ton stronger. Tayuya was stronger, but her main enhancement seemed to be genjutsu, and so on.
And while Asuma lacks Byakuyan, he does have killer speed and two nice chakra blades to defend himself with, as well as very powerful range. His ash attack one-shotted a Kakuzu mask, he notices Kidomaru's position and he'll badly injure if not kill him with that, he doesn't have to play defense like Neji did. Probably go in the trees too.
Even with the more strength it gives, Kurenai has the skills on her, and likely speed. Also, one cannot play flute while fighting in Taijutsu, so it'd just be a matter of time at best.
I dunno. Considering this ability and Guy's fighting style, I think they'd be excellent opponents for Guy. Not as good as Torune of course but fairly good.
Still a boost. Not to the extent that Sage Mode would but it would be a helpful boost.
Considering how many attacks Spidey can launch at a time, Asuma would probably be pushed into a corner.
Maybe. But then again, aside from the vague databook stats, we can't say much for Kurenai really.
You are correct. But Raikiri would not give us enough penetration, imo, to net a kill or even injury. He can just make more bones like a beast. Especially if we consider him to not be sick.
Af.Ti. should be able to break bones...but it certainly didn't obliterate Kisame's body...and Kisame definitely does not have a KG that makes his bones harder than steel.
I forgot about Asuma's wind blades, Q99. I will use a feat from the anime: they appear to be able to go right through several trees/rocks with ease. That should be enough to go right through Kimi's bones and hit a vital.
I think Genjutsu is the easiest way to take down Kimi.
It was a kick. Pretty good admittedly since she had to quickly break her own genjutsu, but she wouldn't be much of a jounin if she could not block a kick.
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He had to deal with a lot more than a single kick, and Itachi had managed to get both of Sasuke's arms out of the way. Heck, Itachi kicked KCM Naruto.
Agreed. And while Tayuya can get pretty nasty once she enters Level 2, I don't think her genjutsu would beat any of the Jounin with the possible exception of Gai.
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Nov 30th, 2011 04:00 AM
Asuma'd be able to play defense until reinforcements came up.
