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Brockalizer
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A.L.E vs IG

Battle 1.
Adam Warlock w/ Infinity Gauntlet
vs
Darkseid w/ A.L.E

Battle 2.
Magus w/ Infinity Gauntlet
vs
Orion w/ A.L.E

Battle 3. (tie breaker if necessary)
Thanos w/ Infinity Gauntlet
vs
Orion or Darkseid w/ A.L.E

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Impossible to say...

Before Morrison watered it down, there were very few defenses against the ALE.. If you lived, it would control you. Power levels were basically irrelevant, all that mattered was if you were alive or not..

Basically, if the living world was a computer program, the ALE would be an exploit of the software that makes life possible.. Because of the ALE's nature as a part of the Source, I doubt the IG can, say, warp reality and make it so the ALE doesn't exist, even if the IG can potentially beat The Source being itself... (Whether or not one wants to even accept the Source being or not is up for another debate though, since Starlin is known for bastardizing New Gods mythology in general, since the Cosmic Odyssey)

It's kind of comparable to Data telling The Borg to go to sleep, in my opinion.

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Yeah. Isnt' A.L.E now just a form of mind control?


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So long as it's user is somewhat competent, the IG wins more times than not.

The ALE primarily affected mind/soul. The IG had absolute mastery over those aspects + power, space, reality, time.


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Originally posted by Galan007
So long as it's user is somewhat competent, the IG wins more times than not.

The ALE primarily affected mind/soul. The IG had absolute mastery over those aspects + power, space, reality, time.


Yeah, but a corpse doesn't really have a mind to control anymore, so the ALE is clearly something besides conventional mind control. Even if the mind gem granted absolutely mastery of TP, it's debatable whether it could defend against whatever the ALE does.

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Yeah, but a corpse doesn't really have a mind to control anymore, so the ALE is clearly something besides conventional mind control. Even if the mind gem granted absolutely mastery of TP, it's debatable whether it could defend against whatever the ALE does.
I'm not saying the ALE hasn't preformed feats beyond mind/soul control (it has.) However, its primary purpose has always been centered around controlling sentient life. That's why the IG wins more times than not, imo.


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depends on whether you think the IG's control over mind/soul surpasses the ALE's. in the 'old days' i'd say no way and take the ALE (i'd have said the ALE wielder could simply control the IG user). now? who knows? most likely depends on whether you're a dc or marvel person. erm


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depends on whether you think the IG's control over mind/soul surpasses the ALE's. in the 'old days' i'd say no way and take the ALE (i'd have said the ALE wielder could simply control the IG user). now? who knows? most likely depends on whether you're a dc or marvel person. erm
Agreed. It also depends [almost entirely] on who acts first. If the IG user acts first, they win. If the ALE user acts first, they win. If they act at the same time, the IG user wins imo.


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Agreed. It also depends [almost entirely] on who acts first. If the IG user acts first, they win. If the ALE user acts first, they win. If they act at the same time, the IG user wins imo.


So it's basically Jesse Custer vs Saint of Killers.

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Agreed. It also depends [almost entirely] on who acts first. If the IG user acts first, they win. If the ALE user acts first, they win. If they act at the same time, the IG user wins imo.


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So it's basically Jesse Custer vs Saint of Killers.
I guess you could say that...

If the IG user acts first, it wins via atomizing the opposition, turning them to jello, hurling them through time, etc.
If the (classic) ALE user acts first, it wins via 'turning off' the IG user's sentience/free will before they have a chance to defend.
If they act at the same time, the IG user wins by having infinite power over mind/soul (which would certainly pose a very strong barrier for the ALE to bypass), along with absolute control over reality/power/space/time.

Just MO.


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IG wins every single goddamn time.


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is it because the IG gives the user chi.....? shifty


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Well the ALE is supossed to be gentically linked to it respective creation. I would speculate it would not work against an IG user from another creation.

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Well the ALE is supossed to be gentically linked to it respective creation. I would speculate it would not work against an IG user from another creation.


By that logic, the IG wouldn't work on any DCU character either.

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Ig every single friggin time.


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Agreed. It also depends [almost entirely] on who acts first. If the IG user acts first, they win. If the ALE user acts first, they win. If they act at the same time, the IG user wins imo.


this is pretty good.

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Yup! remember when Darkseid had the IG and tried to use it?
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By that logic, the IG wouldn't work on any DCU character either.

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But the IG user has more flexibility. He could be fighting the ALE user while he is baskin from another time and reality. When Thanos had the IG, he can appear in multiple locations in the universe at the same time while getting a pedicure.
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Agreed. It also depends [almost entirely] on who acts first. If the IG user acts first, they win. If the ALE user acts first, they win. If they act at the same time, the IG user wins imo.

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