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Question Odin vs. The Stranger

What do you think? eek!


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Odin. No contest, imo.


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What are Stranger's best feats?


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Creating a planet in 'Beyond' is the best feat I've seen from him.


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^ he created Ego and alter Ego (Galaxy-level being at the very least)

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that's not to say stranger>galactic levels of power though, just to be clear. he's had MANY lesser showings to mix in with a couple of high ones. i'd give this to odin for a very solid majority.


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Originally posted by operator616
^ he created Ego and alter Ego (Galaxy-level being at the very least)
True, I almost forgot that Stranger was even in Astonishing Thor lol. Although he did require certain tech and formulae from the Collector in order to create Ego/Alter-Ego:
http://imgur.com/4RKitjp
http://imgur.com/X1MjmPv

Why galaxy-level?

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Originally posted by leonidas
that's not to say stranger>galactic levels of power though, just to be clear. he's had MANY lesser showings to mix in with a couple of high ones. i'd give this to odin for a very solid majority.
*cough*X-Men Forever*cough*


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^ Yes, though it's definitely implied that he did the majority of the work (and is superior to them), especially here in the 3rd consecutive page:

http://i.imgur.com/ixJHwCe.jpg

That would be because of Ego's battle with Galactus, for one. in thor #132/133 (i posted those before):

http://i.imgur.com/AOD1cpJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gWJJ0ZU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fBZx1Dz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7W9vul7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FaOIfP8.jpg

His bio mentions that his psionic abilities rivals that of Galactus, at their peak:

http://i.imgur.com/4v5xvWq.jpg?1

Thor The Legend, lists him with the Galactic/universal threats:

http://i.imgur.com/r2u27yC.jpg

Though i understand he has an amount of low showings.

And same thing applies to the Stranger, X-Men Forever isn't the only one, as im sure you know.

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Originally posted by leonidas
that's not to say stranger>galactic levels of power though, just to be clear. he's had MANY lesser showings to mix in with a couple of high ones. i'd give this to odin for a very solid majority.


Yeah, never said that he'd win, just pointing out his feats. Though it was definitely implied that he's superior to them.

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Odin Force Wrecks Him Again, this thread has been done before, Odin won there as well.


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Stranger stalemated Pluto in his own realm, and feigned defeat because he realized the battle would have lasted way too long as Pluto was steadily being supplied with power.

Which indicates he is below Zeus. And thus below Odin.


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Originally posted by operator616
^ Yes, though it's definitely implied that he did the majority of the work (and is superior to them), especially here in the 3rd consecutive page:

http://i.imgur.com/ixJHwCe.jpg
It implies that Stranger created Ego/Alter-Ego and imbued them both his own personality... Which we knew.

He still needed Collector's resources to create them, though.

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Originally posted by operator616
That would be because of Ego's battle with Galactus, for one. in thor #132/133 (i posted those before):

http://i.imgur.com/AOD1cpJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gWJJ0ZU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fBZx1Dz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7W9vul7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FaOIfP8.jpg

His bio mentions that his psionic abilities rivals that of Galactus, at their peak:

http://i.imgur.com/4v5xvWq.jpg?1

Thor The Legend, lists him with the Galactic/universal threats:

http://i.imgur.com/r2u27yC.jpg

Though i understand he has an amount of low showings.

And same thing applies to the Stranger, X-Men Forever isn't the only one, as im sure you know.
I see where you're coming from, but I personally wouldn't rank Stranger among the confirmed galactic-level beings simply because of a few high-end feats and bios from one of his creations. /shrug


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Originally posted by operator616

Yeah, never said that he'd win, just pointing out his feats. Though it was definitely implied that he's superior to them.


fair enuff. i think ego has some pretty inconsistent feats as well and the stranger retcon doesn't really make sense in some ways and caused a little inconsistency with his character both in regards to what he once told thor and in the fact that he was considered (iirc) to be one of the elders of the universe which would actually make him OLDER than the stranger. in any event, i def wouldn't put stranger above ego. same level? maybe, but if i were forced to choose, i'd take ego in a straight up battle (barring any plot device because stranger was his maker....)


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Odin, convincingly.


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Odin wins. The Stranger was said to be a mini Beyonder.


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Stranger stalemated Pluto in his own realm, and feigned defeat because he realized the battle would have lasted way too long as Pluto was steadily being supplied with power.

Which indicates he is below Zeus. And thus below Odin.


Yeah, apart from that, The Stranger got owned by juggernaut with a punch, and wasn't doing that well against the rest of the team in X-Men Forever (v1), same thing against a weakened silver surfer in his 1st series, not too well against overmind in Quasar, etc.... he has many low showings.

He's meant to shine when he gathers with the other members of the cosmic hierarchy, though.

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The Juggernaut punch was explained.
Stranger fights what he can beat.


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Originally posted by Wonder Man
The Juggernaut punch was explained.


I quickly rechecked the relevant issue (X-Men Forever #6), and i found nothing where the punch was "explained" (Whatever that means).

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Was it explained how Iceman was able to negate(via freezing) Stranger's attacks?


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X-men forever is an alternate reality, isn't it?


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They explained the Juggernaut punch as the human level possessed by a body in the Stranger. Even TOAA can be touched on that level.


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