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Adult Franklin Richards wins... 10 71.43%
Thanos with a CCU wins... 3 21.43%
Stalemate; 5 out of 10 for both sides... 1 7.14%
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Adult Franklin Richards vs Thanos with a Cosmic Containment Unit...
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Adult Franklin Richards vs Thanos with a Cosmic Containment Unit...

Adult Franklin Richards vs Thanos with a Cosmic Containment Unit...

Battle to the Death or KO...no BFR...who wins?


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What did Thanos do with a CCU?


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What did Thanos do with a CCU?


Beat Chronos...


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Thanos stomps, he became Etetenity with cube

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Hum...

Alone, a CCU is far to be enough to beat Franklin on his own.
But in that case, Thanos is the user...

I'll say Franklin 6 or 7/10


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Originally posted by Mistress-Death
Thanos stomps, he became Etetenity with cube


While that did happen, I didnt mention it in my above post because of how incredibly bad Marvel jobs Eternity...

Eternity has been choked out by the Ancient One and defeated by Nightmare (if memory serves me correctly) for starters...Eternity is one of the worse jobbers in the Marvel Universe when you consider what he's supposed to be and how he actually performs on average.

In addition, Eternity never actually confronted Thanos with a CCU when Thanos took his place (unlike during the IG saga when Eternity directly attacked Thanos)...


Anyway, I think using that feat "against" Eternity is dubious at best...

Defeating Chronos is a more impressive, concrete, feat IMHO...


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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
While that did happen, I didnt mention it in my above post because of how incredibly bad Marvel jobs Eternity...

Eternity has been choked out by the Ancient One and defeated by Nightmare (if memory serves me correctly) for starters...Eternity is one of the worse jobbers in the Marvel Universe when you consider what he's supposed to be and how he actually performs on average.

In addition, Eternity never actually confronted Thanos with a CCU when Thanos took his place (unlike during the IG saga when Eternity directly attacked Thanos)...


Anyway, I think using that feat "against" Eternity is dubious at best...

Defeating Chronos is a more impressive, concrete, feat IMHO...


I was one of the biggest doubters of the power of CCUs till Mr. Master pointed out what an (alt?) reality Doom did with one in an X-men novel (which is canon because it was referenced in the handbooks), pancaking realities on top of realities and if he wasn't stopped omniversal level damage.

Thanos with one of those things would be brutal so I'm giving it to him.

And Kronos is sort of over rated. He exhausted himself dealing with Dumb Drax and Moondragon once. As much of a jobber as Eternity is, he hasn't stooped that low..............yet.


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^ If you take those novels seriously, you can just simply conclude that Doom w/CCU > Thanos w/CCU based on their relative feats.

I do agree that Kronos hasn't done sh1t.


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If you take the novels seriously then feat-wise Doom /w/ CCU > Thanos /w/ IG.


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CCU's were never meant to be something that could reach out to multiversal levels, let alone, omniversal.

Franklin wins.

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Franklin Richards takes this .


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Those X-Men/Cosmic Cube novels...weren't they part of a trilogy with the first book being about Doom, the next being Magneto, and the third one being Red Skull?


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Those X-Men/Cosmic Cube novels...weren't they part of a trilogy with the first book being about Doom, the next being Magneto, and the third one being Red Skull?


Yup . And the cube was unable to completely fulfill its wielders' wishes , which is why it sought out alternate realities which were consistent with the desires of its wielders .
As far as the omniversal collapse thingy goes , IIRC , then that was a domino effect of the cube piling up the 3 universes(Doom's,Magneto's and Red Skull's) on top of each other . Nothing the cube did directly through its own power .


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I remember checking out those books at my school library years ago and I did an essay on them concerning science fiction/fantasy.


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If you take the novels seriously then feat-wise Doom /w/ CCU > Thanos /w/ IG.

I actually thought the novels weren't canon at first but then Mr. M produced the official Marvel Handbook entry for the Cosmic Cube and lo and behold it was mentioned there.
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CCU's were never meant to be something that could reach out to multiversal levels, let alone, omniversal.

Franklin wins.

But they've done it before. See the Infinity War story arc. Five CCUs were merging two universes, concealing the Magus' presence from the other great powers, shutting down the Ultimate Nullifier, and comatosing Eternity AND Infinity.


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And Kronos is sort of over rated.

I thought Kronos was just a "Zuras-level" being that is expanding an insubstantial.

He is an Eternal.

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I thought Kronos was just a "Zuras-level" being that is expanding an insubstantial.

He is an Eternal.


The only time I remember him engaging in a fight (pre IG) was against Dumb Drax and Moondragon and he exhausted himself during that fiasco. He's weaksauce.


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Those X-Men/Cosmic Cube novels...weren't they part of a trilogy with the first book being about Doom, the next being Magneto, and the third one being Red Skull?
Yeah, the collective novels are called 'The Chaos Engine Trilogy'. I have them downloaded, just never got around to reading them.

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I actually thought the novels weren't canon at first but then Mr. M produced the official Marvel Handbook entry for the Cosmic Cube and lo and behold it was mentioned there.
I'm not saying the novels aren't canon, I'm just saying that the novels put the CCU's above nearly any other power in Marvel, from a feat standpoint.


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I'm not saying the novels aren't canon, I'm just saying that the novels put the CCU's above nearly any other power in Marvel, from a feat standpoint.


That's why I can't stand the whole concept of Cosmic Cubes/CCUs. For example, five of those things in Magus' hands -

Feat wise : were merging two universes, concealing his presence from the other great powers and abstracts (this he said, was were most of the CCUs power was dedicated to), and stopping the Ultimate Nullifier from functioning.

"Fight" wise : obliterated Galactus, his ship and everyone in it and comatosed and bound Eternity AND Infinity.

Yet fully evolved Cube Beings claim the Celestials are "many orders of magnitude of power" above them. confused


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That's why I can't stand the whole concept of Cosmic Cubes/CCUs. For example, five of those things in Magus' hands -

Feat wise : were merging two universes, concealing his presence from the other great powers and abstracts (this he said, was were most of the CCUs power was dedicated to), and stopping the Ultimate Nullifier from functioning.

"Fight" wise : obliterated Galactus, his ship and everyone in it and comatosed and bound Eternity AND Infinity.

Yet fully evolved Cube Beings claim the Celestials are "many orders of magnitude of power" above them. confused
Imo, the novelization's version of a CCU doesn't really fit with the CCU's established in Marvel comic books--but since happenings from the novel were mentioned in a few official Marvel bios, there's really no arguing it's canonicity. /shrug

I agree, though. Makes no sense.


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