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Odin in the Destroyer with the PG vs. Arishem

If Odin has the PG and had it for 1 day before the fight starts... Can he defeat the Host

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The entire Host, or just Arishem?

Either way, this is a tough call. Odin+Destroyer+the essence of Asgard, was less than nothing in comparison to the Host... Not sure if replacing Asgard with the power gem would make a significant difference here, considering Odin only has a single day to acclimate himself with it. However, it's also quite possible that he could dominate the Host.


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Depends on how well he can tap into the PG . If he shows complete mastery over it , he wouldn't even need the Destroyer in this case , he could simply amp up the Odin Force to the nth degree .
In that case Arishem would lose .

Otherwise , the result remains the same as it was in Thor#300 .


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Speculation blah blah blah speculation blah


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Otherwise , the result remains the same as it was in Thor#300 .
that depends on if arishem mind jobbing odin and co, making them see their homes cut off from them applies here. i bet it would still scare the shit out of him, but if he has the power to defeat arishem he might also have the power to rebuilt the dimensional gateway or move asgard etc


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Odin should have no problem adapting to use of the PG.
He would most likely use the PG to amp ALL of his hoodoo to the nth level.

He would win.

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1 day of amping is a hell of a long time for someone like Odin. Hell Odin might reach IG levels in such time. Odin would beat the entire Host IMO.


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1 day of amping is a hell of a long time for someone like Odin. Hell Odin might reach IG levels in such time. Odin would beat the entire Host IMO.




In one day, Odin's going to take 1/6th of the IG and become as powerful as the full IG?


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In one day, Odin's going to take 1/6th of the IG and become as powerful as the full IG?


Yes, he already has all the powers of the IG to a lower scale (soul, reality, time, etc.) The PG will boost all of his abilities to the 1000th degree in a day. Because of his experience wisdom and power I see him gaining more power from the PG in a day than any user ever in comics would in a day (even Thanos).

Think about it. If the PG can boost an experienced user to the 10th degree almost instantly within a couple of seconds (proof of this is in comics) then what degree will they be boosted in a full day (86400 seconds)? Odin will be a universe buster in no time.


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in a what if story the infinity broke from fighting a host of celestials

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Yes, he already has all the powers of the IG to a lower scale (soul, reality, time, etc.) The PG will boost all of his abilities to the 1000th degree in a day. Because of his experience wisdom and power I see him gaining more power from the PG in a day than any user ever in comics would in a day (even Thanos).

Think about it. If the PG can boost an experienced user to the 10th degree almost instantly within a couple of seconds (proof of this is in comics) then what degree will they be boosted in a full day (86400 seconds)? Odin will be a universe buster in no time.


I mean no offense, but I don't think anyone can take this seriously.


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I mean no offense, but I don't think anyone can take this seriously.


Unfortunately , truth is always offensive .


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depends on the PG, if its PG13 it doesnt help him much its too softcore.


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Arishem squishes the Power Gem, and it's insignificant adornments.


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I mean no offense, but I don't think anyone can take this seriously.
He is saying that Odin already has powers that reflect the different aspects of the Infinity Gauntlet, to a lesser degree of course.

He is Odin and has been shown to have some mastery over the properties of the universe. "Some Mastery" is the operative term.

Time, Space, Power, Mind, Reality and Soul.

And, Odin would probably use the unlimited power of the PG to boost what he has. I don't know if it would be on the same level as the IG, but it could be pretty high up there.

I agree.

Why wouldn't he? Why couldn't he?

You would have to explain your stance against this strategy.
Because it is completely sound.

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He is saying that Odin already has powers that reflect the different aspects of the Infinity Gauntlet, to a lesser degree of course.

He is Odin and has been shown to have some mastery over the properties of the universe. "Some Mastery" is the operative term.

Time, Space, Power, Mind, Reality and Soul.

And, Odin would probably use the unlimited power of the PG to boost what he has. I don't know if it would be on the same level as the IG, but it could be pretty high up there.

I agree.

Why wouldn't he? Why couldn't he?

You would have to explain your stance against this strategy.
Because it is completely sound.
So you believe that Odin with the power gem alone could match--or even come close to--the levels of a competent being in possession of ALL the infinity gems?

If that is your opinion, I can't help but facepalm. I mean, if that were the case, why would Thanos have even bothered collecting all the gems? Why not just stop at the power gem? Remember, each gem gives its wielder the highest possible level of mastery over the particular aspect it controls (under TOAA, of course.)


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Arishem..power gem alone won't put him in Celestials league..

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Originally posted by Horrificus
He is saying that Odin already has powers that reflect the different aspects of the Infinity Gauntlet, to a lesser degree of course.

He is Odin and has been shown to have some mastery over the properties of the universe. "Some Mastery" is the operative term.

Time, Space, Power, Mind, Reality and Soul.

And, Odin would probably use the unlimited power of the PG to boost what he has. I don't know if it would be on the same level as the IG, but it could be pretty high up there.

I agree.

Why wouldn't he? Why couldn't he?

You would have to explain your stance against this strategy.
Because it is completely sound.


He was replying to h1's ridiculous claim that with the Power Gem alone , Odin could reach the same/similar level of power as the IG .
While it is possible that the Odinforce could get amplified to enormous levels(if Odin can harness the gem's maximum potential within one day) , it is absurd to postulate that it would be at a similar level of power as the whole IG itself .


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technically, the only real showing for the other gems was that they were able to beat the abstract of that particular field of expertise i.e. chronus - time, love & hate - mind/soul, chaos & order - reality/mind/soul, and when thanos made himself omnipresent as eternity was he used the space gem, every use backed by the power gem of coarse

i don't think odin backed by just the power gem would be able to beat an abstract at their own game as casually as thanos did in the "cosmic conflagration"


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