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Superman vs The Iron Man Team

Alright Superman pre 52 vs Iron Man, War Machine, Guardian, Vindicator & Box(Jefferies) Team has a day of prep. Who wins?

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Woo Team Iron Man could whip some nasty stuff up....does Supes know they've had prep?


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Tony's team should win. With prep they would be able to exploit the weaknesses that Superman has.


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It'll have to be limited red sun radiation, however. Or BFR to the Negative Zone or somesuch.

Kryptonite from an alternate universe will not work, as per mod ruling, these guys don't REALLY work with magic, and I doubt they can overpower Superman with sheer strength alone.


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It'll have to be limited red sun radiation, however. Or BFR to the Negative Zone or somesuch.

Kryptonite from an alternate universe will not work, as per mod ruling, these guys don't REALLY work with magic, and I doubt they can overpower Superman with sheer strength alone.


What about mechanical energy leeches to bring him down to a more manageable level?


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Ew. Yeah there's that too!


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They'd have to block out the sun, though.


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They'd have to block out the sun, though.


Wouldn't it be more feasible for them to merely block/filter out solar or electromagnetic energy? So one mod for siphoning the energy and another to keep Supes from re-upping his supply.

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Wouldn't it be more feasible for them to merely block/filter out solar or electromagnetic energy? So one mod for siphoning the energy and another to keep Supes from re-upping his supply.

He can just use the electrical energy to recharge himself.


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Wouldn't it be more feasible for them to merely block/filter out solar or electromagnetic energy? So one mod for siphoning the energy and another to keep Supes from re-upping his supply.
Problem I'm seeing with that is that superman can escape and recharge faster than they could probably drain him. Once he sees the threat he'd probably try to finish it quickly.

Out of character he could fry their circuitry with heat vision.


Team could take it but I just don't see it happening.

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Problem I'm seeing with that is that superman can escape and recharge faster than they could probably drain him. Once he sees the threat he'd probably try to finish it quickly.

Out of character he could fry their circuitry with heat vision.


Team could take it but I just don't see it happening.


That would also depend on how powerful they were wouldn't it?


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Team without weakness exploiting still wins


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Really? How so?


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It'll have to be limited red sun radiation, however. Or BFR to the Negative Zone or somesuch.

Kryptonite from an alternate universe will not work, as per mod ruling, these guys don't REALLY work with magic, and I doubt they can overpower Superman with sheer strength alone.


I'd like further clarification on this ruling myself. I really thing it's being misinterpreted. Iirc you are applying the fact that kryptonite for
Example the one from superman primes universe would have no effect on Clark because it was a different radiation wavelength... Saying they can't use kryptonite from another universe is not the same as trying to duplicate Clark's weakness

If the lex from original supermans universe went to marvel for example, with his knowledge what's to stop him from creating the necessary item.


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I'd like further clarification on this ruling myself. I really thing it's being misinterpreted. Iirc you are applying the fact that kryptonite for
Example the one from superman primes universe would have no effect on Clark because it was a different radiation wavelength... Saying they can't use kryptonite from another universe is not the same as trying to duplicate Clark's weakness

If the lex from original supermans universe went to marvel for example, with his knowledge what's to stop him from creating the necessary item.


Oh no, I guess I am mixing two different rulings together in a mashup.

So its a combination of basic knowledge, and the fact that Kryptonite from different universes don't work.

So, say, basic knowledge decrees IM knows about Superman and Kryptonite. He creates it. But the mere fact he can create it, doesn't mean that it would work.

However, if Lex or Batman went to Marvel, and told IM how to make the specific K-nite necessary, then yes, it would work - it doesn't magically stop working just because its in a different universe.

Here, IM's team knows Clark is vulnerable to K-nite. But unless Lex or someone tells them how to make it, it won't work. If a Lex from a different DC Earth told them how to make it, it still won't work.


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I'd like further clarification on this ruling myself. I really thing it's being misinterpreted. Iirc you are applying the fact that kryptonite for
Example the one from superman primes universe would have no effect on Clark because it was a different radiation wavelength... Saying they can't use kryptonite from another universe is not the same as trying to duplicate Clark's weakness

If the lex from original supermans universe went to marvel for example, with his knowledge what's to stop him from creating the necessary item.


Only Kryptonite from that Kryptionians universe works on that Kryptonian. DC haven't told us why, but it is what it is.

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Wouldn't it be more feasible for them to merely block/filter out solar or electromagnetic energy? So one mod for siphoning the energy and another to keep Supes from re-upping his supply.


If they could block it entirely, sure. But Superman can recharge in other ways. Not as quickly or as efficiently, but still.


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How does that work against superman? Also, tony didn't built it in one day.


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He currently has it, that's like asking batman how many bat-a-rangs he can make in a day.

A beam capable of hurting a cosmic entity, not able to hurt superman?


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Yah, at first I thought, oh, Pym needs to be there, and he needs more than a day..

But he currently has it lying about.


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