The Most Powerful order of Light Side Force Sensitives.
The most powerful order of Force Sensitives are the Zeison Sha. The Zeison Sha were a order of Force Sensitives that lived on the planet Yannibar or more commonly known as Zeison Sha stress. at some point in their history they started Developing Telekinetic powers and begin to become force Sensitive as a means of Surviving the harsh conditions and Ecosystem of the planet Yannibar even Becoming more Stronger and Resilient physically compared to most Sentients. the Zeison Sha's beliefs as a order are Independance and Self Sufficency as well as Assisting Those In Need. but the Jedi order looked at them as guardians of the public. and even stated by Jedi Master Vodo Baas, The Zeison Sha's Telekinetic abilitys surpass most of our Jedi Knight's Force abilitys. The Zeison Sha had 2 ranks within their Order. Zeison Sha Initiate (Similar to Jedi Knight) and Zeison Sha Warrior (Similar to Jedi Master)
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The Zeison Sha are the Strongest Order and as a Support , at some point during the Zeison Sha's history, a Majority of the Zeison Sha left Yannibar to Complete a mission and during that time, the J.E.D.I begain Snatching more then half of the Zeison Sha's Children which at the time were Zeison Sha Initiates, and because of their Physical Strength and Resilience, their overwelming Telekinetic Strength and Force Sensitivity, and also to convert them into the Jedi order. and when the Zeison Sha Returned to Yannibar and saw the reports conserning Jedi Child Snatching cases they confronted the Jedi Order and took their Children back to Yannibar, and even then the Jedi attempted to convert the Zeison Sha into the order but failed. and as for the Zeison Sha's Children, they were not allowed to enter any of the Jed's temples without Adult Supervision. The Zeison Sha remained Independant and Self Sufficient as well as Assisting anyone in Need but remained out of Galactic Republic's influence and Isolating Contact with the Jedi. which is the Reason they Never appeared in any of the Star Wars Movies.
Yeah we havent yet . but like i said before, but didnt Type the exact Statement that Vodo Baas said right. but Vodo Baas Stated that the Zeison Sha's Initiates Telekinetic powers surpass Most in the J.E.D.I Order itself. I dont know why Vodo didnt Mentioned the Zeison Sha Warriors Telekinetic and Physical Strength and Force Capabilities. M.A.Y.B.E he didnt want to
Last edited by Star Wars Logic on Nov 1st, 2012 at 09:21 AM
Lesse, how to put this... they're specialists. They're better at telekinesis, but in turn, they're not as good at other areas because they're focusing on said telekinesis.
The Jedi, as a whole at least, are generalists. Some are good at some force powers, some others, so they have access to a range of powers the Zeison Sha don't.
You've never see a group of Zeison Sha scorch a world, like the Jedi did Yavin 4.
NO you didnt read the previous message. The Zeison Sha are Stronger Physically and more Resilient then most Sentients which is the one of the reasons why the Jedi tried to convert their Children into the Order. another Reason is because of their Overwelming Telekinetic Strength, The Zeison Sha's initiates were already Considered Overwelming in the Use Of Telekinetic powers. The Zeison Sha Warriors were Gifted Extraordinary Indivisuals in the use of Physical Combat and in the use of Telekinetics, so much that a Zeison Sha Warrior can make a Physical Shield made completely of Telekinetic energy surrounding their bodys, meaning no Physical attack, or Force power can affect them Such as Force Storm Force Choke Force Push Force Pull or even attempting to drain their life Force Drain. Also the Zeison Sha Warriors were capable of Crushing their enemys body with sheer use Of their Telekinetic powers. The Zeison Sha were Balanced in Both Physical and Telekinetic as well as using Force Powers. Same cant be Said about the Jedi order, since the Jedi order focus Primarily on the Spiritual Capabilities&Connection with the Force. The Jedi Order relyed on the Force to Save their lives when fighting against other Force Sensitives (Such as the Sith) Strip a Jedi of the Force and all that is left Standing is a Man with a Lightsaber. there was a old saying that is TRUE and a FACT. A FALSE BALANCE IS A ABOMINATION. im reffering to the Jedi not being Balanced with their Physical Bodys as well as their Telekinetic Capabilities. The Jedi order only excel more then most other Force Sensitive Organizations (NOT INCLUDING THE ZEISON SHA OR THE MATUKAI) when it comes to using their Spiritual energy. The Jedi order have a False Balance Physically and Mentally which is a Abomination.
Last edited by Star Wars Logic on Nov 1st, 2012 at 10:05 PM
You keep on leaping to anyone not agreeing to you whenever they don't just agree what you said.
Being good at just TK or TK and physical doesn't make them better overall, it just means they're specialized.
Also, Jedi used physical powers all the time, a lot of Jedi were really good physically, which apparently you don't know. That isn't just a Zeison Sha thing.
Speed, agility, strength, all areas where Jedi have been shown to train to be quite superhuman in in some cases.
I think you're just going out in your own little world here. The Jedi aren't by any means in a 'false balance,' and the Zeison Sha aren't more balanced than them.
You like them, that doesn't automatically make 'em better.
No Being Balanced Physically and Telekineticly and as Force Powers does make them better overall. If you were to strip a Zeison Sha of the Force that wouldnt make much of a difference Since they didnt rely on it to Save their Lives. Maybe You are The One in your Own Little World. because if you didnt already Notice, The J.E.D.I's physical abilities are supported by the F.O.R.C.E For Example. When a Jedi Jump onto a Building more then 3 Stories high, They are using the Force guide their bodys lifting their weight off of the Planetary Gravity and onto their Destination, In Short They have no Extraordinary "Natural" Stamina. and as for Agility ill use Qui Gon Jinn as a Example in that Factor. On Star Wars Episode I The Phantom Menace, When Padawan Kenobi and Master Jinn were attempting to break through a Blast door where the 2 Separatists Diplomats were. 2 Droidekas Interrupted Kenobi and Jinn, Proceeding to Fire, the 2 Jedi knew that The Droidekas Shields were Immune To Lightsabers so thus Qui Gon Grabbed Himself and Obi Wan with the F.O.R.C.E and lifted then Pushed themselfs at such a High Speed they evaded the Incoming Blaster Bolts and Lost the Droidekas and got to a safe Location. as for "NATURAL" Agility that is a feat the Jedi do NOT possess, The J.E.D.I's Agility is ONCE AGAIN Supported by the Force. and as for Physical Strength, A Lightsaber is not the Best example for Physical Strength Since its a Melee Weapon that Cuts through Most Known Alloys Armors and Surfaces without Trouble, also not requiring Brute Strength to Cut a Person in half or in pieces. The J.E.D.I use the Force as a Blade Most cases With their Lightsaber, which is why Obi Wan Kenobi told Anakin Skywalker, This Lightsaber is your life dont lose it. The J.E.D.I imbued their Lightsabers with the Force, using the Force as an ally and a blade in the most Crucial of battles and in Galactic events. Even the Jedi order themselfs teach And encourage the Padawans and Knights of the Order to Unlock as many unique Spiritual Force Capabilities possible in order to Futher one's Strength Physically and in the Understanding of the Force. the Jedi AGAIN do not Possess "NATURAL" extraordinary Strength Speed and Agility physically, The Understand and use the Force to Support them in many battles, which is why they had a old saying among the J.E.D.I order. Trust In the F.O.R.C.E it will guide you and lead to many Great Things. it will not Mislead you. The Jedi do not have Any "NATURAL" Extraordinary Physical Feats. The Matukai are the Near Physical Perfections and best order for Drawing out Force Sensitivity in Someone who isnt even Force Sensitive. and the Zeison Sha are the Telekinetic Unstoppables as well as Gifed Extraordinary Indivisuals in the Use of Physical prowess. as well as having a Strong Connection to the F.O.R.C.E and as for the J.E.DI. and S.I.T.H. they have Been Known to be the Been the Best Force users in Histroy Since they have Been Involved in Intergalactic Events that changed the Fate of Galaxys, which gained them Fame and Considerable Prowess. i dont Favor or Dislike any of the Force Organizations, they all are great but the Zeison Sha are better compared to the J.E.D.I Physically Telekineticly and in Philosophy. And Y.O.U. saying i L.E.A.P to anyone that dosent agree with me? if you are going to Disagree with Someone For your Own Preferential Reasons then of Course Someone will Naturally Reply Back to that Opinion Contradicting it. this time R.E.A.D the whole Factual Statement instead of Ignoring&Backspacing Most of it.
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Is that really all you can say? The Jedi being more balanced then the Zeison Sha? Even though The J.E.D.I CANT make Physical Sheilds made of the F.O.R.C.E or T.E.L.E.K.I.N.E.T.I.C Energy to defend thus make themselfs Immune From All known Force attacks&Physical attacks? dont make me laugh, everything you are saying Now is based on your Opinion theorys and Reluctance to Understand that this is a Fight you cant Win, With Words Facts Perception/Intelligence nor Explainary Evidence. Just Stop. But i will give you this Fact. The J.e.d.i Cannot Survive a atmosphere with a Temperature of 426 C Which is in other words the "Mercury" of Star Wars Yannibar The Zeison Sha's Homeworld, a place where they Survived Without the F.O.R.C.E for More then 5 Years. And you are already aware of the Zeison Sha's Common&Rare Abilitys Compared against the J.E.D.I's 1 Jedi Master Bodo Baas Stated The Zeison Sha's Initiates Telekinetic Abilitys Surpass Most Of the Jedi Order's Force Capabilities, and a Zeison Sha Initiate is Equivalent to the Rank of a Jedi Padawan, which Means The Zeison Sha's "Padawans" Surpass Most Jedi Knights&Jedi Masters in the Order in Telekinetic Energy&Force Capabilities. and as For the Zeison Sha Warriors, They are Extraordinary Indivisuals in Feats of Physical Prowess, Unstoppable in Utilizing Their Telekinetic Energy Both Offensive and Defensive. as well as having a S.T.R.O.N.G Connection to the F.O.R.C.E as a means of Surviving their Planet Yannibar (Mercury) The Zeison Sha Warriors are So Strong in Both Departments that they Can make 2 Physical Sheilds Made Of Both Telekinetic Energy and The F.O.R.C.E Surrounding the Outer Lairers of The Bodys. which is in other Words the Ultimate Defense. And Because of the Zeison Sha Warriors, many attempts to Rise to Power In the Galaxy by Many Other threats Other then the S.I.T.H have Been halted Thus Gaining the Zeison Sha Considerable Prowess. Nothing More Needs to Be Explained The Zeison Sha Are the Most Powerful Order Of Light Side Force Sensitives. The Matukai are the Second Most Powerful Order Of Light Side Force Sensitives (And if you disagree please feel free to Do So, So i Can have More Fun Destorying your Mindset Twords the J.e.d.i With F.A.C.T.S) and the J.e.d.i Are the Third Most powerful Order Of Light Side Force Sensitives.
Last edited by Star Wars Logic on Nov 6th, 2012 at 01:23 PM
Could you please supply us with evidence of this feat?
The same can be said with you and your habit of saying messages with akward periods inbetween the letters.
And who gives a phawk about that?
"I had heard that Zeison Sha are masters of the telekinetic powers, but I was astonished to see that their abilities in this area far surpass those of many Jedi."
Many doesn't most.
For a group with so many feats, they sure do have A LOT of notable indivduals. Oh wait.
You're not posting facts, you're posting your opinions. You've yet to post ANYTHING to back up your claims about this no body group.
O.H really? the evedince you want is refferences to the Zeison Sha Capabilities in the Books? that will take to long to find/Quote, Read their Biography thats Evedince Enough. Stating what The Zeison Sha Initiates and the Zeison Sha Warriors were Capable of With The Force&Telekinesis with all the Accumulated "Evedince" that were Researched and Proved. you might find the evedince Y.O.U are looking for in the Upcoming Star Wars Movies.
I'm sure no one will waste their time to look up some material on some small group. Besides, I shouldn't be looking for the evidence, you should. If you want to prove a point, at least have the evidence to back it up, telling people to go find it is just moronic.
In layman's terms, you're too lazy to find the "evidence". That or it doesn't exist.
Buddy there is no reason for me to try to P.R.O.V.E anything to you since you arent someone important enough to P.R.O.V.E. something to. Since you did or didnt read the Zeison Sha's Biography whatever you say in the Future is Opinionated. im not lazy its just finding 1 book among many of the Other Books and Mangas i have Stored is a hard Task, Suffice it to say Trying to Find that 1 Book is like going through a Library of Unlabeled Books, a waste of time. if you want to know where the Zeison Sha were first Refferenced and Became Cannon. That would be the Star Wars Role Playing Game Hero's Guide
What? Cade Skywalker does both these things. Nomi Sunrider does too, I think... heck, in the Sith, Darth Azard uses them (to elaborate, Darth Azard is one of the One Sith's Generals, but he is not even in Krayt's inner circle, rating below the likes of Talon, Nihl, and Maladi).
Telekinetic shields are a fairly common thing among strong force users.
I think you're just unfamiliar with the Jedi's full capabilities. I don't think there's a single ability the Zeison Sha have and the Jedi don't. The Zeison Sha may focus on it and have it more commonly, but the Jedi definitely have it too, plenty of strong force users can do that sort of thing.
No you confuse The Zeison Sha's Telekinetic and Force Shields, with the Jedi's And Sith's Capabilities to Re-direct Spiritual/Physical Attacks with the Force, Such as Intercepting a force Puch with one of their own, Like on Star Wars Episode III Revenge Of The Sith at the Near End When Anakin Skywalker was Fighting Obi Wan Kenobi. or using the Force to Deflect/Re-direct a Blaster bolt with their hand. Or when a Jedi inbued their Bodys with the Force to Save their lives in a near Death Situation, For Example When a Sith Lord is Using Force Lightning in attempt Kill a enemy Jedi, the Jedi would use the Force to Hold the incoming Lightning back and slowly Continue to Re-direct the attack untill it No Longer threatens his life. (Similar to a Force Shield not NOT exactly) The Zeison Sha can Surround the outer lairers of their body with Telekinetic Energy. Suffice it to say if a Zeison Sha Warrior were to Face a Dark Lord Of the Sith In Combat both Physically and In the Force.The Zeison Sha Warrior would Surround the outer lairer of their Body Either using the F.O.R.C.E or T.E.L.E.K.I.N.E.T.I.C energy to Create a Physical Shield that makes the Warrior Immune to all Incoming Force attacks without Attempt, Such as Force Crush Force Choke Force Lightning Force Drain or Force Horror. Basicly you cant defeat a Zeison Sha Warrior Using the Force. Nor Can you Defeat a Zeison Sha Warrior using any Physical means, in the process you'd be wasting your Spiritual/Physical energy trying to Break through a Indestructible Telekinetic Sheild or a Indestructible Force Sheild, and in the outcome of the Later battle the Zeison Sha Warrior Would have Crushed the Confused Sith Lord Opponent's Body with Telekinetic Energy. This is the Reason why the Zeison Sha havent Expanded past Yannibar or the Sha Kalan, Because if Any D.A.R.K Zeison Sha escaped Yannibar and spread their influence to other Indivisual Sentients then they would be a far Larger problem then the Sith Ever were.
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Oops I made a Mistake i accidently Mixed what i Wanted to Say in your Qoute trying to Backspace most of The Unimportant Sentence, and make my Qoute Below your Sentence of Note, like everyone else was with me, i guess i still have to get used to this Site. Next ill just keep typing what i want in the /B QOUTE area to avoid a future Mix up. oh well you still get the Picture. you didnt Originally Say that.
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Wait, what?
This is one of the biggest bits of favoritism I have EVER seen.
Anyways, no. The Jedi more than likely have any ability you can name.
As said earlier, many=/=most.
Vodo Siosk Baas lived a LONG time before the more powerful of the Force Users. That era was the era of lightsaber gods while the PT/OT era was force gods. Most notably, the most powerful force sensitives to ever live.
And this is the BIGGEST opinionated Statement i Have ever Witnessed. Dont you Dare attempt to Argue The Zeison Sha's Capabilities Comparison to the J.E.D.I's. its Not Favoritism. Unless you Know more About Other Force Organizations Other then The J.E.D.I and S.I.T.H DONT ATTEMPT to Contradict this thread, M.O.V.E A.L.O.N.G And Many= Half, The Zeison Sha's Initiates were Telekineticly Stronger then more then Half of the Jedi Order. Many Jedi Which = Most Jedi Since its Above 50%. Which includes Jedi Masters Jedi Knights and Jedi and Padawans
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. but like i said before, but didnt Type the exact Statement that Vodo Baas said right. but Vodo Baas Stated that the Zeison Sha's Initiates Telekinetic powers surpass Most in the J.E.D.I Order itself. I dont know why Vodo didnt Mentioned the Zeison Sha Warriors Telekinetic and Physical Strength and Force Capabilities. M.A.Y.B.E he didnt want to 
