Well Thanos at his strongest is probably near abstract level and definitely at least low skyfather.. I'd give it to him.
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Sides the fact that fact that he knocked down regular galactus, took the full on blasts of omega (who was supposedly 2x the power of galactus)... fought a fully empowered Tyrant who had just recently defeated 5 heralds by himself.
He was able to destroy a shield of Quasar, something Phoenix (rachel) didn't do.
took a fullblast of surfer and wasn't even singed.
Thanos and silver surfer each took the same blast from odin, but surfer was ktfo, while Thanos was brushing it off. He took the full power of Odin, concentrated through Gungir, and was still standing, Odin even saluted Thanos's ability as an opponent. How often does odin do even that....
Hrm.. offhand thats all i can think. of i think of more i'll post it. And btw don't misread this. I'm saying I put Thanos on at least skyfather level. but could by up to abstract level. I'm not actually saying he is.
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"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
Their are a few things you might be mistaken about...
First being the galactus event, he knocked him back, did this hurt galactus at all? No it did not, Galactus then proceeded to get up and nearly destroy Thanos. Knocking Galactus down is not a very impressive feat since Galactus has had much worse done to him by many others.
Secondly, destroying a shield of quasar isn't that big of a feat, considering Quasar's shields and constructs have a specific weaknesses. EVen destroying one of his shields out of pure power isn't a feat that would put thanos on abstract or sky father level.
Thirdly, Thanos has never fought a full powered, or a near full powered Tyrant. During Thanos brief fight with Tyrant (who wasn't at full power or anywhere near it), Thanos was empowering himself with one Tyrants bio spheres, and even then Tyrant was beating Thans horribly, Thanos admited if he would have stayed and continued to fight he would have surely been destroyed.
Thanos fight with Odin, is more of a feat for durability then anything else, at the end of that fight Odin was fine without a scratch on him, Thanos on the other hand was smoking, burnt, cut, scraped, and pieces of his suite were incinerated. The only reason Thanos possibly survived that fight with Odin, which Odin was winning the entire time, is because Thanos cannot be killed from his curse.
Thanos on his power is no where near Abstract, nor is he skyfather.
Also for this fight Thanos does not have his curse of death, meaning he can die.
As for Thanos mind being more tacticaly advance, I disagree. Majestic has some tactician feats that outspeed and outclass any of Thanos in battle (with no-prep) feats.
Knocking galactus down not a feat? where galactus would take hits from guys like thor, human torch and others and not flinch? And that comic you refer to doesn't show a hungry jobbing galactus, like most other comics, when galactus is "easily" beaten.
secondly very few things have beaten a shield of Quasar. YOu had the combined might of Thor, cyclops, hulk, thing, and others trying to break the shield of quasar, but it didn't break, Thanos' strike did.
And you said that Thanos was empowered by the orb of Tyrant that he took. Prove it. All it shows is that Thanos took it, and that it was his prize. Not that he was using it to empower himself, it never mentions in the comic that Thanos was even tapping into the power of that item. But Tyrant was at that point stronger than before. And mind you at that point in time was after the point when Tyrant defeated all 5 of the herald levle characters.
When Thor went insane, Thanos succeeded where the Surfer, the Infinity Watch, Doctor Strange, and other Asgardian gods could not. This led the assembled group to Asgard, where they came into conflict with Odin. Thanos battled Odin until the god learned the truth, revived Thor, and allowed Thanos and the heroes to leave Asgard with his and Thor's gratitude. In the comic that Thanos was battling Odin, it doesn't even show that Thanos was trying to defeat Odin, throughout the comic, Thanos rarely throws a punch, or attack. In it it was the result of Thanos returning the odinson to odin. Why would he actively try to hurt Odin if his cause was to restore Thor to his proper self? Yes its a depiction of Odins durabilty.
And yes. i still cling to the fact that Thanos is skyfather level (if a low one)
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While Majestic has some nice feats Thanos has outsmarted gods on a regular basis and cosmic beings far more powerful, hell he has beaten the MU 3 different times and Majestic has nothing on that level.
All your opinion, which doesn't make it fact, he was tossed like a rag doll by Odin, to say he wasnt trying to make an excuse for his poor showing doesn't make him look any better.
Did you know Quasars shields have been broken by much less? And wassn't when Thanos broke Quasar's shields he had the Infinity Gauntlet?
He knocked galactus down because he suprised him, did it do any harm to Galactus at all? No it didnt, Galactus then proceeded to nearly destroy Thanos, and Thanos was begging for Galactus to stop.
Galactus isnt a abstract level, nor is he a skyfather of any sort, without his curse of death it is likely to say Odin would have killed him in their fight.
By the way, Thanos was beat down like a rag doll in his fight with Tyrant (who was no where near full power).
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This quote is funny. Maybe DS hasn't achieved Godhood becuz DC's heroes are stronger and smarter than Marvel's. ( Or DS already sees himself as the God Thanos wants to be.) Let's see how well thanos woudl do in the DCU. HA! 2ndly, DS is not a sky Father. He's entity lvl, and even then, he's not the strongest one. yuga kan is. 3rdly, Superman, Thor, Silver Surfer, Takion, WW, all have feats of power and Durability that have them against Gods and entity lvl beings. Does this mean they are all sky father lvl with Thanos too?
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He didn't do anything about getting hurt because he knew he didn't have to.
No he didn't have the infinity gauntlet.
You're saying Galactus, who on several occasions has been called the sibling to death/oblivan and eternity/infinity is not at least abstract or even skyfather level
And tyrant may not have been "full power" but he was empowered by several of his power orbs.
Agree to disagree? Maybe we'll find we agree on something else
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"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
I don't think Darkseid bothers that much with Godhood. I kind of see Darkseid like the guy that likes to torch a building just to see people burn, not because of lust for power.
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