with his OE, why not? He threw BBB into Gladiator causing a distraction and that allowed a cheap shot. He didn't fight all of them at once either. It was rather one at a time. Anyway, DS should do fairly well IMO.
The recent Batman/Robin arc (specifically in Robin Rises: Omega) had a panel showing Bruce being hit by Darkseid's OE which happened in FC and then even referenced the Return of Bruce Wayne follow-up. On top of that, there are other instances where, for example, Dick is referenced taking on Batman's mantle (and we know it's not a reference to Knightfall based on his team up with Damian) which happened as a direct result of Batman's death/disappearance in FC.
Of course, this contradicts the new continuity, and it's not the only one either.
^ Clearly, they're trying to pigeon-hole Darkseid's killing of Batman leading to Battle For The Cowl and Grayson's time as Batman in the new continuity, but the wider events of Final Crisis itself makes absolutely no sense in the new continuity and are completely unnecessary for the narrative.
You can have one (Batman's death at Darkseid's hands and return) without the other (the entirety of Final Crisis). This appears to be how the DCnU is operating. And there's precedent. Action Comics #16 breifly alluded to Superman's previous death at the hands of Doomsday but never elaborated on it as the whole storyline would make absolutely no sense in the new continuity. So, DCnU has the one (Superman's death at Doomsday's hands and his return), without the other (the entirety of Death of Superman/Reign of Supermen).
Even within the Robin Rises storyline, it's revealed that Darkseid's been licking his wounds in stasis since his defeat at the hands of the Justice League in their origin story. Which is why Kalibak went to all that trouble of constructing the Chaos Cannon to strengthen Apokolips and, in turn, Darkseid. Not much wiggle room to shoehorn in a campaign to dominate the universe with the ALE, fight Earth's resistance, and spite the multiverse with a collapse into a singularity in between that.
The part of Reign of Supermen where Hal's city was destroyed is also canon given that Zero Hour is canon, RoS is the arc where Hal's city was destroyed which led him to the dark path.
But more on point - Even your side of what continuity should be is contradictory. You're saying that only Batman's "death"/return is canonized? but consider this: It's been established that Darkseid was only once on Earth (5 years ago, when Super-heroes started to appear and JL was formed), so for DS to blast Bruce with OE he had to come to Earth a second time. Which in itself is contradictory.
So really, in light of its already contradicting nature, why wouldn't the wider events of FC make sense again? What part of Darkseid collapsing the multiverse actually contradicts N52? In fact, Morrison's Multiversity references the demise of the Monitors which happened as a result of Superman using Miracle Machine to restore the multiverse to its prior state before Darkseid destroyed it.
What part of Darkseid taking over the Earth actually contradicts the new continuity? Given that Batman couldn't be considered dead unless he had a clone which was mistaken for him. So Darkseid had to have clone facilities and other new gods cloning Bruce, that doesn't contradict anything, in fact it lends credibility to the fact that Darkseid took over the Earth.
And there are other arcs such as Cosmic Odyssey (based on John's reference of his guilt regarding Xanshi's destruction) which also make no sense Darkseid playing a role in them. So i suppose your point of having only a specific set of events in a given event as canon as opposed to all, is valid, but it still doesn't apply to FC.
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