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Team M vs Team DC

Team Marvel:
1. Thanos
2. Galactus
3. Phoenix
4. Juggernaught
5. Hulk
6. Iron Man
7. Thor

Team DC:
1. Spectre
2. Darkseid
3. Doomsday
4. Superman
5. Martian Manhunter
6. Green Lantern
7. Capton Atom

These champions are transported by unkown force by time and space to a new land. They are taken in their most powerful incarnations(remember this is when they were at their strongest). The land is dessert with no life not even vegatation. There is nothing around them not even hills it is all flat land. The sky is covered by darkened clouds. All of a sudden a voice tells them that which ever team wins will be returned to their home. The fight begins which team will emerge the victor?

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Team Marvel. The combination of Galactus and Phoenix at their most powerful is waaaaay too much for the DC team.


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I think this is an even fight. I think darkseid will probaby fight thanos one-on-one with them be equals. Spectre fights both Galactus and phoenix with that being equal. I think the duo of Hulk and Jugs fights Supes and Doomsday. Ironman and Thor tangle with the rest. In the end Team DC comes with a slight advantage and takes it.


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dude...thats not even a fight......Phoenix is atleast as powerful as spectre....so will take him.....and galactus takes out the rest of DC team in 10 seconds.....

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I do not think so I think it is a more evenly matched then you give it credit for.


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dude...thats not even a fight......Phoenix is atleast as powerful as spectre....so will take him.....and galactus takes out the rest of DC team in 10 seconds.....

Good job

Spectre couldn't stop parallax so he isn’t stopping pho


And yes Galactus will eat the rest easily.


Pre-Crisis Darkseid >=Thanos > >>>>> Superman >= Darksied


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Isn't a full-powered Spectre all but omnipotent? You'de figure that the incarnation of God's Wrath would be able to do something... And Superman's most powerful incarnation is Prime, and the most powerful GL would be Hal, and him at his best was Parallax... Basically, if the Spectre at full power can take both Phoenix and Galactus, then DC wins. If not, Marvel.


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Isn't a full-powered Spectre all but omnipotent? You'de figure that the incarnation of God's Wrath would be able to do something... And Superman's most powerful incarnation is Prime, and the most powerful GL would be Hal, and him at his best was Parallax... Basically, if the Spectre at full power can take both Phoenix and Galactus, then DC wins. If not, Marvel.

Spectre should be able to beat

Even Lucifer, Parallax but he doesn't that's the point. (Since God his giving him power to do it)

He couldn't handle some street punks (normal peeps)

Spectre gets powered by Presence without it he is not a big deal.

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See, this states that everyone is full powered. So since the Spectre's power varies on what the Presence wills, you have to assume the Presence imbues him with infinite power, or all that Spectre can handle. So basically, Galactus n Phoenix are screwed.


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See, this states that everyone is full powered. So since the Spectre's power varies on what the Presence wills, you have to assume the Presence imbues him with infinite power, or all that Spectre can handle. So basically, Galactus n Phoenix are screwed.


What is a full powered Spectre?

Wasn't he full power when he tried to stop Parallax? I think he was.

Logically Spectre would handle them all but Spectre has never shown such power.

Full power Spectre couldn't handle parallax so I don't think he will get by Pho.

But logically a full power Spectre= Presence in power

Has limitless power and will blink them all out of existence.


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This is what I wanted to see people giving both sides of the argument, but don't just argue about the big guns how do you think the other guys will fare. Remember it is which ever team wins.


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If its a big brawl, then the little guys don't matter. If its individual fights, DC still wins. If you go by numbers, Spectre beats Thanos. Galactus beats Darkseid. Phoenix beats Doomsday (for a while anyway... hehehe). Prime beats Juggernaut. MM beats any Hulk. Parallax wastes Iron Man. King Thor would beat Captain Atom. 5-3 DC.


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If its a big brawl, then the little guys don't matter. If its individual fights, DC still wins. If you go by numbers, Spectre beats Thanos. Galactus beats Darkseid. Phoenix beats Doomsday (for a while anyway... hehehe). Prime beats Juggernaut. MM beats any Hulk. Parallax wastes Iron Man. King Thor would beat Captain Atom. 5-3 DC.



Spectre beats Thanos
Galactus beats Darksied
Phoenix beats DD (not for a while she will send him outside time/space into a void)
Prime vs Trion --- i got with Trion
MM vs hulk --- MM
Parallax vs IM ---- Parallax


If it's all out fight

Galactus can take all of them out.

While Pho and Spectre ---- I take Pho, Spectre full power have been stopped before.

Why is Parallax here ---- it's not a normal GL's power I would put Hal not Parallax because than Thanos would have HOTU.

If so he will blink all of them out of existence.


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"During the Crisis, the Spectre traveled back to the dawn of time and used his vast power to save all of Creation." DC Encyclopedia

Spectre > Galactus

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"He couldn't handle some street punks (normal peeps)"

Was that Jim Corrigan in that image? Jim was a more powered down version of the original Spectre. Nulled.

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"Spectre gets powered by Presence without it he is not a big deal."

Created and powered by Presence yes. Without it hes no big deal? Who is going to take the power away? Without gamma radiation Hulk is no big deal. Without Odin, Thors no big deal. Without the power cosmic Surfer's nobig deal. Whats your point? Whos going to take Spectre's power away?

"The Spectre is the mystical embodiment of Gods wrath." DC Encyclopedia.


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That wasnt full powered Spectre in Rebirth.


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Yea, Spectre is all but omnipotent. And damn, forgot about Trion Juggs... Supes 1 million might be able to take him, as he's way more powerful than normal Supes, as well as being immune to a good amount of magic. And Parallax is Hal Jordan at his most powerful. Doesn't matter if he's more powerful than normal, Trion Juggernaut is more powerful than regular Juggs. King Thor isn't normal Thor. The thread still says everyone at their best. Which still leaves a godly Spectre to eat everyone...


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"During the Crisis, the Spectre traveled back to the dawn of time and used his vast power to save all of Creation." DC Encyclopedia

Spectre > Galactus

Quoted by kgkg
"He couldn't handle some street punks (normal peeps)"

Was that Jim Corrigan in that image? Jim was a more powered down version of the original Spectre. Nulled.

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"Spectre gets powered by Presence without it he is not a big deal."

Created and powered by Presence yes. Without it hes no big deal? Who is going to take the power away? Without gamma radiation Hulk is no big deal. Without Odin, Thors no big deal. Without the power cosmic Surfer's nobig deal. Whats your point? Whos going to take Spectre's power away?

"The Spectre is the mystical embodiment of Gods wrath." DC Encyclopedia.



Do you even know who spectre is?

Spectre’s power varies with God's will.

Without it he is nothing it's a weakness that separates him from LT.

Hulk without gamma is nothing, without power cosmic SS is nothing

I didn’t say without God Spectre is nothing,

His power is similar to Gladiator.

Full power (well what we have seen) -near Parallax at full power level
At other times he doesn’t even have power over criminals

SS, Thor, Hulk are not Restricted but orders don’t use What if.

Spectre power can vary from powerful to weak.

Spectre couldn't stop Parralax so Pho wouldn’t have a problem


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Yea, Spectre is all but omnipotent. And damn, forgot about Trion Juggs... Supes 1 million might be able to take him, as he's way more powerful than normal Supes, as well as being immune to a good amount of magic. And Parallax is Hal Jordan at his most powerful. Doesn't matter if he's more powerful than normal, Trion Juggernaut is more powerful than regular Juggs. King Thor isn't normal Thor. The thread still says everyone at their best. Which still leaves a godly Spectre to eat everyone...

i agree

can you recall when spectre was full powered?


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This is good just remember that this is when they are all powered so even the little guy makes a difference. Don't just give me this person beats this person tell me how the battle plays out start to finish. This isn't which team has the more powerful people it's which one wins. Ex: In the begining of the fight Spectre is beating both phoenix and galactus but he qiuckly discovers his teammates are all gone. Now it is a seven against one fight can spectre hold off everyone. No he looses and the DC team is now stuck in limbo. A story like that you can be as simple or complex as you want.
A few ground rules I should have put out first though.
1) No teleportation only way out is defeat
2) Even if someone dies and like phoenix can ressurect she is still not allowed to return to the fight because she has been defeated. This also goes if someone is knocked out.
3) Be creative give plot twists that you wouldn't expect for instance juggernaught sneaks up behind spectre and knocks him out with a powerful blow stuff like that. And don't argue if you feel something is inpossible just let it be fun.


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