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Justice League vs Xmen (twist)

Everyone here is stripped of their powers. Which team wins in a H2H fight?

Xmen

Cyclops
Storm
Colossus
Rogue

vs

Superman
Aquaman
Wonder Woman
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X-Men, of course.


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Diana is the only one that matters and Ororo gives her a rosebutt.


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Supes over Cyke
Aquaman over Storm
Wonder Woman over Colossus

Even if Rogue beats Hal (debatable), the DC team still wins, overall.


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JL have the stats advantage on average.
X-Men have the skills advantage on average.

JL have the star player in terms of skills (WW).
X-Men have the star player in terms of stats (Piotr).

Overall, the skills advantage is not enough to overcome the stats advantage (we're hardly talking about KK level skills here).


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(we're hardly talking about KK level skills here).

We -could- be. Here’s hoping.


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Of the X-Men, I'd put Storm and Cyke top of their class. WW is def more skilled than either of them, and depending on which showings you use,so is Superman (i.e. his high skill showings are more impressive than theirs).


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JL have the stats advantage on average.
X-Men have the skills advantage on average.

JL have the star player in terms of skills (WW).
X-Men have the star player in terms of stats (Piotr).

Overall, the skills advantage is not enough to overcome the stats advantage (we're hardly talking about KK level skills here).


You think so?

Hal caught Batman with a sucker punch. He must have incredible skills, to pull that off.

Plus he beat Guy in a brawl, who admitted to using his ring to alter his stats over the years.

Superman, he beat Kobra in hand-to-hand, one of DC's upper martial artists (Mr. Terrific had something like 20 Black belts, and he was only just barely edging him out.)

And Aquaman... Him I'm not sure of. He sure seemed even with Wonder Woman in Flashpoint. Granted, different timeline, but for all the changes, many things seemed similar. Can't imagine Aquaman and Wonder Woman's entire origin and training was altered.

And I'm sure Batman taught him, same as anyone in the League.


On the other team, Scott lost handily to Shen Kuei, Colossus is no Ben Grim, and Rogue never looked particularly impressive in h2h against Gladiator and the like, as Wonder Woman has Superman.



I low ball, of course. I'm 100% certain you can pull out skill feats for all four, my point is team JLA isn't too shabby on that front...


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Diana is the only one that matters and Ororo gives her a rosebutt.


Logan was going easy on her. He likes her, and doesn't have a thing to prove.

You know better then anyone, he's way more softhearted the he lets on. smile


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Logan was going easy on her. He likes her, and doesn't have a thing to prove.

You know better then anyone, he's way more softhearted the he lets on. smile


She has plenty of other feats.

DC turds don't stand a chance here.


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She has plenty of other feats.

DC turds don't stand a chance here.

This is what i meant by could be talking about KK level skill.
Stilt swears the X characters are some of, if not the, best MAs in all of comics.

Again, here’s hoping he gets going, it’ll be fun to read when i log back in later.


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I'd like to see them, too. I've heard things over the years, about Psiboobs and Scott having skills, and others..

Even if it's only showing up Cap and Logan, who I rate highly, but certainly not as high as Val Armor (Or even Shang Chi or Cassandra Cain), it's always good to see a new pool of martial artists.

I do know Fantomex is up there.. Not sure if he's really a mutant.


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You think so?

Hal caught Batman with a sucker punch. He must have incredible skills, to pull that off.

Plus he beat Guy in a brawl, who admitted to using his ring to alter his stats over the years.

Superman, he beat Kobra in hand-to-hand, one of DC's upper martial artists (Mr. Terrific had something like 20 Black belts, and he was only just barely edging him out.)

And Aquaman... Him I'm not sure of. He sure seemed even with Wonder Woman in Flashpoint. Granted, different timeline, but for all the changes, many things seemed similar. Can't imagine Aquaman and Wonder Woman's entire origin and training was altered.

And I'm sure Batman taught him, same as anyone in the League.


On the other team, Scott lost handily to Shen Kuei, Colossus is no Ben Grim, and Rogue never looked particularly impressive in h2h against Gladiator and the like, as Wonder Woman has Superman.



I low ball, of course. I'm 100% certain you can pull out skill feats for all four, my point is team JLA isn't too shabby on that front...


I agree, hence the skill advantage not being enough to counteract the clear stat advantage.


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Team DC. Although Scott and Ororo make them work for it. Piotr is a non factor as is Rogue


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I'm team DC. They have the stat and skill advantage in my book.

2 guys and 2 girls vs 3 guys and 1 girl. Just an 'on average guys are tougher than girls.

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And here's the proof:


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Put in Real World Physics and DC Wins Cause they have only 1 Weak Female on their team to Marvel's Handicap of having 2. That and DC got more Real Style Training in their Lives when compared to the X's Hologram Video Game training in the Danger Room.

DC Wins.


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Put in Real World Physics and DC Wins Cause they have only 1 Weak Female on their team to Marvel's Handicap of having 2. That and DC got more Real Style Training in their Lives when compared to the X's Hologram Video Game training in the Danger Room.

DC Wins.


I wouldn't say all that! confused Diana is still a freaking Amazon and Ororo lived that street life both at home and in the sewers with the Morlocks. I don't think either of them are weak. I think Diana is stronger than Ororo though and far more skilled. big grin

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Colossus Vs Superman might be a fun Dork Fight to watch.


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