1.) Split generally, but Diana can win easily knowing that the lasso can force Cap to say the name of the wizard whom empowers him. Flip side of that is that Cap also knows that's a possibility and will be on guard for it.
Branlor already brought-up how Billy was doing during um, whatever that INFINITE CRISIS lead-up's name was. I should note this was the same Spectre that beat Shazam, in Shazam's own realm, who had prepped ahead of time. Even if it couldn't be sustained, Diana wouldn't endure it long before defeat.
As for regular, Wonder Woman wasn't able to beat a temporarily handicapped Billy(broken arm and powers reduced; although shortly into the fight his full powers returned and his arm instantly healed) even though she was backed by Guy(with his alien powers), Kyle, J'Onn, Wally and maybe more. And they weren't mind controlled, the realm they were in merely fanned the flames of the bad in them or something like that. Neron specified it wasn't them being controlled, it was them being influenced.
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1. Regular fight I think WW would win somehow. Even though he is supposed to have all that wisdom, Billy's childishness comes out now and then... Diana would make use of that and win.
Regular, they're pretty equal but Diana does have the lasso edge (and the lasso has been used to revert him at least twice) and is more of a tactician, so I'd give it to her.
Days of Vengeance, and yea, CM empowered by *every magic user on earth* is a bit impressive
On the flip side, her strongest is Trinity Wonder Woman, and in that form she might really be able to outlast him.
Eh, J'onn's taking down Billy solo before when Billy was controlled by the Gray Man.
Sounds like, at best, they were fighting poorly. Kyle, J'onn, Diana, and Wally are each individually dangerous foes for him after all.
While I think J'onn can take down Billy, it's only fair to mention Cap just snapped out of his mind control, and wasn't even sure where he was, let alone he was in a fight with one of the most powerful characters on DC Earth.
But yeah, the Neron influenced fight doesn't prove much of anything, IMO. Just one of those "Hero faces impossible odds" moments that never reached a conclusion, and while a nice feat for Cap, proves nothing about 1 vs 1 battles, given the context.
During the WAR OF THE GODS storyline, Diana fought evenly simply because she was dodging his attacks, and he was sorta mind-controlled. So I dunno if she'd do as well when he's in his right mind. And he generally did better against Superman than Diana ever did.
I knew I remembered the name, but I couldn't spell "vengeance" right.
I assume you mean the 52 issue TRINITY. Haven't read all the issues yet, so I'll have to
Billy was essentially sucker-punched when J'Onn forced Gray Man out of his mind. He also hurt J'Onn before Gray Many was forced out. That's why J'Onn attacked Cap, he specifically stated he was dazed, so he didn't notice the shift in minds. Gray Man-controlled Cap was about to finish the fight, then Billy's all, "WTF?"
As for the storyline where Cap fights that team, it was in I think UNDERWORLD UNLEASHED. I'd show the fight, but Photobucket seems to be having issues and some of the scans aren't showing-up right now. I'll post it later.
It seems most of the images are working, but when I was pulling-up the fight, some of them said "image down, we're working on it" or something along those lines. So I didn't want to show an incomplete fight.
Busieks Trinity. Neat concept that had some moments, but overall fell flat, imo.
Superman, Wonder Woman, and Batman represent some sort of abstract concept that lets them tap into creation energies from the Cosmic Egg, plus energies in the main DC universe, and basically become abstract level beings.
The trio was supposed to be as powerful combined as Krona, who himself absorbed a ton of Cosmic Egg creation energy.
I think Diana has the better track record, in that she has an actual win. WW managed to cut his throat and have him helpless in Sacrifice, while CM vs Supes is pretty much always a draw.
Also, when CM and Superman fight, they tend to strait-up slugfest, rather than Superman using his range of powers. When WW and Superman fight, he's occasionally done slugfest, but on other times busted out his toolbox.
Has Cap ever shown any feats where he's actually using the Wisdom of Solomon? Only one I can think of off the top of my head is when he refused membership to Batman's alternate JLA in the Obsidian Age storyline.
Isn't it MEANT to give him fighting knowledge etc as well?
Cap wins in both. In war of the gods ares was mindcontrolling and draining cap and even then all diana could do was to stalemate him for a few panel. Add in her low tolerance to electric attacks and his lightning amped punches would wreck her.
You have been corrected on this many times. Don't make me pwn you again.
It's given him awareness like a sixth sense. I remember in THE POWER OF SHAZAM! graphic novel how it let him just know things, some of them being useful in the fight, although it didn't give him like Martian Arts knowledge or anything.
A hormone-driven young teenager with the stamina of Atlas.....
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