1. MCU Black Panther
2. MCU Spider-man
3. MCU She Hulk
4. MCU Groot
5. MCU Abomination
6. MCU Ragnarok Hulk
Boss: MCU Jane Thor
__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
There were disingenuous posters here who argued that Superman didn't really have super speed until JL. Then they argued that other Kryptonians didn't have super speed unless they showed it on-screen.
The only hope the MCU folks have here is to break the mask, and only Hulk, Abom can for sure do it. Problem is, they're massively outclassed in speed and they don't have AOE's to compensate for it.
Lady Thor has AOE's but I'm can't quite remember enough of her feats to know if her attacks are strong enough to crack that mask. I'll have to rewatch L&T.
Thats not disingenuous tbh (I mean some people may have been). But It was the lack of evidence. On screen feats are the forum rules, and the only Kryptonian shown moving at super speed in MOS (outside of flight) was Faora.
We can speculate, take our best guess about writers/directors intentions, but without direct quotes from them, or a standard speed clocked on screen, it becomes very subjective to use as a basis for a versus battle.
Except all Kryptonians have the same powers, so it made no sense for one to have super speed, while the others did not. Anyway, this argument has been laid to rest by The Flash. Now we know that even unnamed Kryptonian grunts are fast enough to hit Barry.
My stance previously was that while Kryptonians could move at super speed, they could only do so in quick bursts and while utilizing simple actions. That's because that was what what shown in MOS.
No continuous use of superspeed, no complex actions done at superspeed. It was mostly relegated to bullrushing.
That changed in Justice League when Superman was playing tag with Flash, but then again that was just Superman and there's been a lot of talk that Superman seemed to have gotten a powerboost in JL. We can't apply the same feats to the rest of the Kryptonians seeing as Kal-el was able to fully absorb the sun's powers for many years whereas Nam-ek couldn't fly or even remove his mask on Earth.
I haven't watched The Flash yet so I'm unsure just how much true "superspeed" the Kryptonians display in that movie.
Barry says "they're almost as fast as us" and they're shown reacting to the Flash, though at slower speeds from the Flash's perspective.
These are mostly no name Kryptonians who can't fly and are not acclimated to Earth's atmosphere yet. Just a bit of solar soaking.
The flight aspect seems to be a matter of wanting/willing to fly. As Kal grew up on Earth, yet couldn't fly well into adulthood, until he focused enough. While Zod learned to fly after a very short period.
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