I wasn't really impressed with the first movie. Why would I be impressed with this one? The first movie remastered was all about kirk and spock coming together but I found it so hollywoodized! It would have been a better film if it was more raw. I would have loved to see long camera shots of the universe but movies today dont exactly stop to gaze at the universe.
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Last edited by rudester on Dec 6th, 2012 at 02:07 PM
Dunno why everyone is excited about Cumberbatch playing the villain, they barely used Eric Bana in the first one, they'll probably give him about 15 mins screen time in total.
Then it will be an awesome 15 mins. Cumberbatch is a beast in Sherlock.
They did shoot a bit more of Bana than used.
Bana's Nero was not as developed a character as Gary Mitchell, Garth of Izar or Khan.
Also the 1st movies (the 2009 one, and the 1979 motion picture, 'Generations' too, I guess) were about establishing the crew and their relationships/surroundings as anything else.
Then after that was done we got the adversaries and more interesting situations/villians after that.
ST TMP (1979) -> The Wrath of Khan
ST Generations: -> First Contact
ST (2009): -> Spectacular GarymitchellKhanGarthofIzar action
Yeah that extended Japanese trailer caused more discussion, with that TWOK-a-like engineering scene being alluded to.
Yeah glad you mentioned the "rumoured".
I see that Alice Eve's character is at this time unnamed too.
(Probably cause it'd give it away en masse)
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Last edited by Sadako of Girth on Dec 6th, 2012 at 05:55 PM
Hes excellent. A bit different to previous versions, but given the more contemporary theme/setting of the series, he nails it.
Very good at the cold/alien type aspect of the character, but able to nail all aspects and dynamics. Totally believable. I highly recommend the series.
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Last edited by Sadako of Girth on Dec 7th, 2012 at 01:07 AM
I thoughts exactly!
I always liked the notion that the Enterprise had a "character" of its own like the Millenium Flacon & not just simply a "space ship."
To see the Enterprise severely damaged, crashing or destroyed was always a sad moment on screen.
I agree, Esau. I wanna see saucer seperation. It never happened in the original series yet did in the comics of the time at least once.
And looking at the plating patterns on the current movie Enterprise around the area where we see Enterprise D do it's thing, you can see differences like there are two distinct parts/patterns.
The battle bridge section would have an arrow like shape to it, if so.
And the guys doing these do seem to be great "I never saw this/those things happen, lets do it this time round" fans.
(Enterprise in atmosphere, Enterprise being built whilst touched down on Earth, now seeing it nosedive into water)
I know the last movie got some stick for Lens flare stylistics and the Star Wars formula being used a bit, but I really rate it and can't wait to see what else this creative crew can do with these movies.
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Last edited by Sadako of Girth on Dec 7th, 2012 at 02:32 AM
Every director has a fav effect they like to use & I have no issues with
J.J's lens flares....Whedon used it too on FireFly adding a distinct style to his action sequences.
As for the Enterprise, I always liked the imagery (from previous Star Trek movies) of having the ship built & docked in space. I was skeptical when J.J. decided the ship would be built on Earth...I always thought the "neck" & the warp nacelles looked too delicate to support the weight in natural gravity.
Yeah and the artificial flare on digital effects to maintain continuity with the live shots worked well.
Die Hard is another Flaretastic movie that works too.
The revisions to the Enterprise have largely gone the right way, I think. The neck has been beefed up and supported further by the Torpedo launcher bay housing, and on this latest revision, at least the pylons holding the Nacelles up are angled better, curved and with assuming that the heavy stuff is in front of the nacelle at least suspension of disbelief is a little easier. This splashdown goes a little further in the "How does that not break the neck" stakes than I had expected it too though, by the looks of it.
I read a Star Trek novel once, although sci-fi for me is more visual than literature.
It just amazed me the description of the amount of levels & departments inside the Enterprise & how the majority of the crew never saw outside the ship for the sheer lack of portholes....obviously like a submarine. It's just the description of the daily routine of most of the crew made it seem really depressing to be on the Enterprise...if you weren't part of the command crew or had access to the saucer section.
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Dec 6th, 2012 09:25 AM
Cumberbatch is a beast in Sherlock.
I guess we'll have to wait and see..
