It's really a melting force versus a concussive force....
Cykes blasts are at a force of 500 lbf/in². I think Supes could easily overcome that. His heat vision might deflect or even split Cykes blasts. But then Cykes blasts are from a limitless power source so hmm..
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Cyclops, Superman's blasts are small in radius and are less powerful. Cyclops will actually be blasting the rest of Superman with beams taht were enough concussive force to destroy an iceberg before he evn grew up.
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Superman's blasts can be extremely thin, or wide enough to engulf a planet.
Here is a scan of Superman heating up a planet with his heat vision .....let's see Cyclops do that! (please log in to view the image)
As for Superman's blasts being less powerful than Cyclops' .....please! Goodness, this is Cyclops we are talking about.
The following scan shows just how powerful Superman's heat vision is (basically so powerful that they cannot measure its true extent and limits through any means).
Yet you say someone who shoots concussive force has more intense blasts than Superman?
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I honestly do not understand Marvel fanboys .....even when there is no viable comparison between the two characters, one will always find a Marvel FB (or two) who will,beyond all reason, make claims that are simply asinine.
What next .....someone saying that Colossus is 'far' stronger than Superman, or someone saying that Wolverine can defeat Superman?
Wait a minute .....both of those have actually been proposed by Marvel fanboys (and the Colossus statement actually made in the last 2 weeks)!
Marvel needs to innoculate its FBs with a strong dose of logic.
It is a shame to even compare Cyclops with Superman .....a better comparison would be to compare Superman with Majestros (Mr Majestic), or with Supreme, or a character of such caliber.
Not with some mutant with a visor covering his eyes.
Wasn't talking about you G.Fox.
That post was directed at Pepito saying that Superman's heat vision was thinner and less-powerful than Cyclops'.
Just showing he was wrong on both counts.
But just to point out some more marvel inconsistencies , People claiming venom owned Juggernaut (the guy's un-woundable , how the **** does venom win ?) , Wolverine versus Apocalypse .......... (fuggin apoc fanboys.....)
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the feats of supes's heat vision are ridiculous. he has covered the distance of earth to moon, heated up an entire planet and wiped out armies with a blast.
honestly, there is absolutely zero comparison between the two.
Is the question if they fired at each other and the beams conflicted which would be pushed back, or which of the two (Cyke, Supes) would give in first? If it's the latter, Supes obviously wins in the stamina department.
If not, has the actual amount of force behind the heat vision been quantified? Not the temperature, but the amount of force it exerts. Saying it's more powerful than a sun doesn't distinguish the amount of force it exerts.
Supes has kept Mongul in mid air with it, and knocked Cyborg Supes through buildings with it.
I'm sure he has a ton more examples, but they escape me currently.
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it looks like that because the sun or star is right behind him, it looks pretty close to him than how it supposed to be..im not sayin that supes heat vision is weaker but that may be the reason why it looks like its engulfin the planet. the sun loks like its ampin his heat vision considering the fact that superman is glowing gold.
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i was considering it's ability to cause destruction as the basis for comparison. if they collided? well, heat vision deflected the omega effect. i don't really think anyone would compare the optic blast to the o-effect . . .
But ...but ....Cyclops is a Marvel character, thus his optic blast must be more powerful than anything in the DCU. (sarcasm).
Seriously though, I wouldn't be surprised of one of the premier Marvel FBs here said that Cyclops' optic blast was even more powerful than Darkseid's Omega Effect. I honestly do not know what they put in the water over at Marvel FB-ville. To them anything Marvel should win, even when the Marvel character is pathetic when compared to the DC character.
For example Pepito saying that Cyclops' blasts were wider and more powerful than Superman's just shows how blind FBs are to DC being able to win something (similar to the Wolverine vs Wonderwoman, Quicksilver vs the Flash, and Thing vs Superman threads ......in their eyes anything with 'Marvel' on is a blue-chip).
PS: I actually think this is why Marvel always has Squirrel Girl beating people like Thanos and Terrax up! Even though Squirrel Girl has the most ridiculous powers ever, she stillmanages to beat people that would give virtually any other character tremendous difficulty. I think this is because Marvel (the company) knows that some of their staunchest fans tend to be illogical, and hence they decide to occassionaly throw out some titbits to them.
Hence Squirrel Girl does the beat down on Thanos.
Just shows that Marvel Fanboyism is an institutional problem.
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There's no way of knowing whether it was the force of his heat vision or the composition (well, frequency, aren't the heat vision blasts infrared and microwaves?) of his heat vision which momentarily deflected the Omega Effect. I'm leaning more towards composition given the fact that Diana was able to block them with her magically endowed bracelets and she didn't have to exert an astronomical amount of force in order to do so.
Cyke's blasts are a specific kind of energy, and they definitely aren't the same energy signature as Supes heat vision, so anyone foolish enough to think he'd (Cyke) be able to deflect the Omega Effect with his optic blasts has no logical ground to stand on.
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Mar 2nd, 2006 04:26 PM
....thanks 
