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Flash/Hal Jordan vs. The Runner and Silver Surfer
Neutral playing field, On a planet with plenty of things to throw around and transmute and all that. For the Purpose of this fight, Flash will have his kingdome come ability to fly.
Last edited by nvrbeenwthagirl on Sep 12th, 2006 at 02:52 PM
Flash and Hal move at twenty trillion times the speed of light, Flash then steals team SS and Runner's kinitic energy (surfer is made of cosmic energy), with no kinitic energy what so ever Surfer stops, he literaly stops thinkng, moving, anything, same with runner who is made of primordial energy, then Hal and Flash ko and or kill team two while team 1 is moving at twenty trillion times the speed of light.
Team 1 10/10 over team two because of kinitic energy steal.
You do realize of course that silver surfer has reached those speeds and that runner was blitzing him like nothing. He was going so fast in fact, reality was bending as he goes. Not to mention the fact Surfer is more adept and experienced against both as far as manipulation energy goes.
Hals ring showed no limitations, to the point of containing the big bang, the ring is only limited with will which Hal had plenty of, going by feats and what he showed he had no limits at his best.
Secondly SS has shown limits with his powers, so dont act as if SS is infinite in anyway in power or energy.
The fastest speed shown on panel that SS has moved at was 300 million times the speed of light, Flash has on panel instantly (didnt need acceleration) was able to move at and do things twentry trillion times the speed of light, SS is not going to even be able to react to this if some one of the runners speed can speed blitz SS.
u talk about the runner like he's slow lol! he has moved so fast it was thought he was using the space gem and with this gem someone can be anywhere or nowhere in an instant. One can even be in multiple places, or can move any object anywhere throughout the cosmos. One can also warp or rearrange space as they see fit to suit their purposes. (but it was revealed he wasnt using the gem to achieve such speeds)
Again you ignore on panel evidence, it was shown that the runner was using the gem the whole time even when he didnt know or thought he wasnt using it.
Secondly show me a scan that shows the runner has matter manipulation on the level of Hal or that matter SS, speculation doesn't hold much grounds in a debate, use on panel feats.
Flash on the other hand has stolden herald and skyfather, and even higher beings, kinitic energy.
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Sep 12th, 2006 02:47 PM
The Surfer could do it by himself...... 
