Anways, he's probably right. Flash, Kal, and Hal are probably a little bit > Jay, Alan, Marvel mainly because Wally >> Jay. The rest will be around, but I can't see anyone else having too big an impact on the fight.
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Captain Marvel defeats Superman with magic.
Jay Garrick beats Wally West because he is war experience.
Mr Terrific and Reddy pretty much equal.
Green Arrow over Stargirl no contest.
No way Alan could take on Hal.
Batman>>>Wildcat.
No way in hell could Jay beat Wally. He struggles to approach lightspeed and he doesn't have nearly as much Speed Force powers as Wally does. It's no contest whatsoever.
Mr. Terrific and Red Tornado are not equal at all. It's a man with robotic spheres versus an indestructible android holding an air elemental with complete control over gases and air molecules. No contest whatsoever.
Absolutely NO way could Green Arrow take Stargirl. Stargirl's powerset is ridiculously beyond GA's capablity to damage her. She can take punches from Supergirl...
Anyway, the JLA win primarily due to the Flash. An easy way for the JLA to win is for Flash to lend his speed to the other JLA teammates. Superman already has superior speed to Captain Marvel (Pre-IC) so a boost from Flash would allow him to win.
The Flash tilts the scales. Not to mention they have no defense against telepathy from Aquaman except for Alan who unfortunately will be too busy with Hal.
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Jay is a war veteran...should we go on?
Terry Sloane, no.
Michael Holt, yes.
Power does not make a better combatant. But I'll give you that she is more powerful. However, that will not stop one of Ollie's arrows from connecting. Her speed is no match for one of Ollie's arrows.
Your posts are always good. But take the wtf smilies....you're not been cute with them. Much less clever.
So is John Kerry. And everyone one of us here can kick his ass. Jay Garrick tops out at Mach 30 when he's serious. When he approaches lightspeed or surpasses it like he briefly did in IC, he'll burn out.
Wally? He can beat instantaneous teleportation and outrun Death (something even Barry couldn't do) Jay's simply not in his league. Not to mention, Wally's beaten Jay in combat numerous times already. Rather easily too.
Simple win for Wally. He steals Jay's speed and calls it a day. Jay can do the same but Wally possesses FAR greater control over the Speed Force than Jay.
Oh and Wally fought in several wars too. Some in the future. Some in the past. Some in alternate dimensions even. So that's completely moot....
How? What can Mister Terrific possibly do to Red Tornado. He's a human being with floating robotic spheres. Even IF in the one in billion chance he destroys Red Tornado's body...it won't do sh**. Red Tornado's true form is an air elemental. He's basically the Iceman of air.
Simple win. Red Tornado creates a city-sized hurricane on Mister Terrific's head. Or he can control the air in his lungs and cause it to burst. Or he can control the oxygen in his veins and have it rocket to his brain to cause a seizure. So many ways for him to win. Terrific's completely out of his league.
That's rather idiotic. Do you have any idea what Stargirl is capable of.
Speed of arrows? Try speed of LIGHT. Stargirls's starrod enables her to travel at lightspeed.
He can fire every arrow he has at her. It won't do anything. She can take blows from Supergirl, Modru and an enraged Powergirl. They'll just bounce of her chest. Not to mention she has constant forcefields protecting her from harm. Forcefields that withstood a nuke.
The ONLY way Ollie can win is if he has a Phantom Zone Arrow. Other than that, Stargirl wins 10/10.
Here's a better idea. Act like a thirty-year old man for once in your life and make logical arguments rather than "he's older than her/him so he MUST win!". bullcrap...
Despite her absymal costume and teddy bear personality, her rod gives her alot of power. She just isn't experienced enough to use it to full potential like her predesecor did.
But regardless, she's out of Ollie's league with her powerset.
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I'm not arguing with you who is the fastest. I'm arguing with you about who could beat be who. Jay is an experience fighter. Which I'm sure Wally is also. Wally outrun death? When did he confronted Black racer?
Last I heard Holt is a super intellectual with extremely knowledge on technology. Gee, all it will take is some program sphere to scramble Red Tornado's database.
Aside from the Phantom arrow there are TWO good trick arrows Ollie can use agaisn't her...the Flash arrow and the sonic arrow.
You mention her forcefields. How quick can she active one before Ollie connects one of his arrows? Split second, huh?
Keyword is "experience" keep that in mind when you refer to the old dogs.
He is overrating her damage intake he knows it too well.
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He struggles to approach lightspeed and he doesn't have nearly as much Speed Force powers as Wally does. It's no contest whatsoever.
