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Marvel Cosmics vs JLA

Cosmics:

Silver Surfer
Redshift
Nova w/entire worldmind
Beta Ray Bill

JLA:

Superman
Martian Manhunter
Green Lantern(Hal)
Wonder Woman

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Cosmics win, yes indeed!

9/10, you heard it here from me first.

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Silver Surfer over Martian Manhunter

Red Shift beats Wonder Woman

Beta Ray Bill = Superman


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Silver Surfer over Martian Manhunter

Red Shift beats Wonder Woman

Beta Ray Bill = Superman


come on man, I know you know better than this. Cosmic team is 10/10, easily.

Surfer and redshift alone can speedblitz everyone sans superman.

Superman himself has an easily exploitable red solar and kryptonite radiation weakness that surfer and possibly redshift can use against him.

BRB and Nova can sit back and watch as the heralds hand out a warp speed beatdown.

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I dont think its that bad of a fight, SS has been pitted up against Hal before and superman I believe...MM could give redshift a good fight I think the Cosmics win and maybe I could have done a little better fight but I just dont think its that awful of a mismatch its not like i made a Daredevil vs Thanos thread


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I dont think its that bad of a fight, SS has been pitted up against Hal before and superman I believe...MM could give redshift a good fight I think the Cosmics win and maybe I could have done a little better fight but I just dont think its that awful of a mismatch its not like i made a Daredevil vs Thanos thread


It's not THAT bad of a fight, but putting Wonder Woman and Manhunter up against a pair of heralds is murder. Manhunter vs. Redshift? You're insane. On a basis of speed alone, no one on that team except MAYBE superman on his best day could even lay a finger on them.

Strength might be a draw, but they're WAY outclassed in terms the sheer variety of powers those two have. Energy projection, durability, matter manipulation, there's very little heralds CANT do. Bloodlusted, they'd probably cause the sun to go nova and wipe out not only the team but the entire solar system along with it.

Superman is way too easy for either of the heralds to neutralize. BFR into a red sun, power drain, kryptonite bombardment, you name it. Cosmic awareness ensures they know about his weaknesses immediately, and thats a big advantage. Every superman vs. Surfer thread has always come down to this.

That leaves just green lantern (who might survive a blitz thanks to auto-shields) vs. Two heralds plus an Amped up Nova and Beta Ray Bill- that's lopsided beatdown territory.

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Originally posted by norrinradd43
Cosmics:

Silver Surfer
Redshift
Nova w/entire worldmind
Beta Ray Bill

JLA:

Superman
Martian Manhunter
Green Lantern(Hal)
Wonder Woman


The JLA can make it out alive if the battle's go like this. WW vs. BRB, Superman Vs. Redshift, Manhunter vs. Surfer, and Lantern vs. Nova. They can hold out long enough for Green lantern to Teleport them the hell out. While I think Hal can beat Nova, WW can probably Stalemate BRB for a time until he tries to BFR her, The Surfer and Redshift are too versatile against THe Jlaers.

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The JLA can make it out alive if the battle's go like this. WW vs. BRB, Superman Vs. Redshift, Manhunter vs. Surfer, and Lantern vs. Nova. They can hold out long enough for Green lantern to Teleport them the hell out. While I think Hal can beat Nova, WW can probably Stalemate BRB for a time until he tries to BFR her, The Surfer and Redshift are too versatile against THe Jlaers.
be brutalized by

WW would most likely be brutalized by the horse.

Superman may be able to hold Redshift, I'll see what others think before I make my decision.

Surfer easily defeats Manhunter.

GL can hold of Nova, however he'll be overwhelmed after WW and manhunter are easily defeated.

Cosmics 9/10


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be brutalized by

WW would most likely be brutalized by the horse.

Superman may be able to hold Redshift, I'll see what others think before I make my decision.

Surfer easily defeats Manhunter.

GL can hold of Nova, however he'll be overwhelmed after WW and manhunter are easily defeated.

Cosmics 9/10

BRB isn't brutalizing WW. you act as if she is alow class 100 who barely knows how to fight. SHe's fast enough to move invisibly. She's also as good a fighter as he is. He won't brutalize her. And Surfer isn't easily Defeating manhunter if he's being hammered by Tp and MM is phased. You are such a fanboy.

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I agree that Beta Ray won't be brutalizing Wonder Woman.

However, the Surfer really CAN defeat pretty much anyone on the (standard) JLA without much trouble. Manhunter included.


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I agree that Beta Ray won't be brutalizing Wonder Woman.

However, the Surfer really CAN defeat pretty much anyone on the (standard) JLA without much trouble. Manhunter included.


NO he can't. he surely can't defeat any of the top tier gl's easily. If at all.

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NO he can't. he surely can't defeat any of the top tier gl's easily. If at all.


Well, I left that part out. A non jobbing top tier lantern would win quite a few from him, maybe a draw even.

However, a non jobbing top tier lantern could ALSO take on anyone on the (standard) JLA without much trouble.


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Well, I left that part out. A non jobbing top tier lantern would win quite a few from him, maybe a draw even.

However, a non jobbing top tier lantern could ALSO take on anyone on the (standard) JLA without much trouble.


True.

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Yeah about 9/10 is right for cosmic team..


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Re: Marvel Cosmics vs JLA

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Originally posted by norrinradd43
Cosmics:

Silver Surfer
Redshift
Nova w/entire worldmind
Beta Ray Bill

JLA:

Superman
Martian Manhunter
Green Lantern(Hal)
Wonder Woman


If we swap the battle around a bit, The JLA fair much better

WW vs. Nova
MM vs. Redshift
Superman vs. BRB
Hal Vs. Surfer. Makes the battle a bit more intersting.

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BRB isn't brutalizing WW. you act as if she is alow class 100 who barely knows how to fight. SHe's fast enough to move invisibly. She's also as good a fighter as he is. He won't brutalize her. And Surfer isn't easily Defeating manhunter if he's being hammered by Tp and MM is phased. You are such a fanboy.


No really, BRB would hogg WW no expression

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You know each of the cosmic guys got those BFR option.. Nova can open stargates, BRB dimensional portals, Redshifts space rifts, SS dimentional.. They can take em out 1 at a time tag teamed.. Cheap but win is a win..


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HOw is hogging a being who can move trillions of tons? And how is he hogging someone who has thousands of years of battle experience? She can block the blast of the entire greek pantheon. And She can break Even superman's ribs. HE isn't hogging anything. He would be luck not to get ensnared in her lasso. Then she could just break his neck. Stop being a fan boy. Cosmics 6/10

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I still say cosmic 9/10.. They can separate DC team then take em out 1 at a time.. Heck id go for 10/10..lol


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HOw is hogging a being who can move trillions of tons? And how is he hogging someone who has thousands of years of battle experience? She can block the blast of the entire greek pantheon. And She can break Even superman's ribs. HE isn't hogging anything. He would be luck not to get ensnared in her lasso. Then she could just break his neck. Stop being a fan boy. Cosmics 6/10


There you go calling someone a fanboy laughing

No but really, just imagine that planet was her head. We've seen how she fares with Superman(she always loses), and other beings of that caliber. She's really not a threat to BRB, just like she isn't a threat to Surfer or Superman.


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