Utrigita
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Who can defeat A celestial in Battle?
By seeing the feats preformed by the celestials and seen how actually very few beings have a shot at them have made me wonder who can actually kill/defeat/destroy a celestial ? Exitar arishem and so on.
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Mar 8th, 2007 04:45 PM
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Re: Who can defeat A celestial in Battle?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Utrigita
By seeing the feats preformed by the celestials and seen how actually very few beings have a shot at them have made me wonder who can actually kill/defeat/destroy a celestial ? Exitar arishem and so on.
It seems like theres very few beings that can defeat a celestial.
Off the top of my head, Classic Beyonder, Thanos w/IG/HOTU were the only people that can recall that defeated a celestial in cannon books.
U have to be pretty uber to take one of these guys down.
Mar 8th, 2007 04:48 PM
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Galactus , invisible women and an extremely amped Thor.
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Utrigita
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agreed with both, but think outside of comic to all thought a welcome, and remember the chosen don't have to kill a celestial mearly humble him in battle.
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Mar 8th, 2007 04:50 PM
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Mar 8th, 2007 04:50 PM
Galan007
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I'd say anyone around well-fed Galactus level.
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Mar 8th, 2007 04:56 PM
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Re: Who can defeat A celestial in Battle?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Utrigita
By seeing the feats preformed by the celestials and seen how actually very few beings have a shot at them have made me wonder who can actually kill/defeat/destroy a celestial ? Exitar arishem and so on.
Guy222 says they can't die. They have returned. Woe unto any being who crosses Celestials
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Mar 8th, 2007 05:13 PM
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Re: Re: Who can defeat A celestial in Battle?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by guy222
Guy222 says they can't die. They have returned. Woe unto any being who crosses Celestials
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Mar 8th, 2007 07:43 PM
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Mar 9th, 2007 06:07 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Endless Mike
Eternity
yeah, the list of individuals who can throw down with celestials is pretty short. Thor is NOT on that list.
Abstracts (Eternity, Infinity, Death, Galactus) can, everyone else is essentially a NO. even the invisible woman feat is largely PIS- celestials are perfectly capable of taking her out at a distance where the nature of her powers are a moot point.
also: guardians of the galaxy isn't canon. LOL at the beyonder hanging out there.
Mar 9th, 2007 06:11 AM
guy222
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Endless Mike
Eternity
If he's not jobbing
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Mar 9th, 2007 07:01 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Space M ummy
yeah, the list of individuals who can throw down with celestials is pretty short. Thor is NOT on that list.
Abstracts (Eternity, Infinity, Death, Galactus) can, everyone else is essentially a NO. even the invisible woman feat is largely PIS- celestials are perfectly capable of taking her out at a distance where the nature of her powers are a moot point.
also: guardians of the galaxy isn't canon. LOL at the beyonder hanging out there.
Agree with everything said, and whoever said an amped Thor i hope they were joking or perhaps they meant Thor merged with eternity.
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Mar 9th, 2007 10:34 AM
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when did he merge with eternity
Mar 9th, 2007 10:57 AM
Mr Master
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Space M ummy
also: guardians of the galaxy isn't canon. LOL at the beyonder hanging out there.
GOTG is very much Canon.
They have they're place in the Official 2006 Marvel Handbook bios.
In fact, that very issue with the Beyonder in Scathan's hand is mentioned in LT's and Protege's Bios.
I must concede,
it was complete PIS though.
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Mr Master
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Re: Who can defeat A celestial in Battle?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Utrigita
By seeing the feats preformed by the celestials and seen how actually very few beings have a shot at them have made me wonder who can actually kill/defeat/destroy a celestial ? Exitar arishem and so on.
Here's a plethora of individuals and artifacts that can take out a Celestial or more:
Tier 1:
THOTI
Tier 2:
1. Pre-Retcon Beyonder
2. Pre-Retcon Molecule Man
Tier 3:
The Living Tribunal
Tier 4: (no particular order)
HOM Wanda (Full control)
Meggan (Full potential)
Merlyn (Matrix empowered)
Cap Brit. with the Sword of Might & Amulet of Right
Havok (Merged with the Nexus of Realities)
616 Jaspers merged with Fury (he must have ALL of Fury's abilities)
Infinity Gauntlet
Oblivion
Jamie Braddock
Beyonders
Tier 5:
Celestial Nullifier
Ultimate Nullifier
Tier 6:
1.Abraxas
2. Post-Retcon Molecule Man (Owen Reece's alter ego)
Tier 7:
1. Entropy
2. Multi-Eternity/Infinity
3. Multi-Death
(I never seen anything to hint at the existence of a multi-Oblivion)
Tier 8:
1. The Infinites
2. The Cosmic Containment Units
3. The Makers
4. Atleza
5. Galactus Insatiable (only seen once) ... Potentially Higher ...
6. Genis-vell Full potential (seen during HOM)
7. Maelstrom empowered by Anomaly/Oblivion/Eon/Quantum Bands
Tier 9:
1. 616 Eternity/Infinity
2. The Phoenix Force/WPOTC
3. Korvac (empowered by Galactus' World Ship)
4. 616 (Death - Lord Chaos & Master Order)
5. Rest of the Abstracts
Tier 10: (alternate and divergent Universes)
1. ALL Other Eternity/Infinity's
2. ALL Other (Death - Lord Chaos & Master Order)
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Mar 9th, 2007 11:11 AM
Supreme being
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Mider999
when did he merge with eternity
Sorry i worded that badly, it was in avengers infinity when The Infinities showed up it wasn't a merger more like he was speaking through eternity asking the Infinities to stop.
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Mar 9th, 2007 12:40 PM
Symmetric Chaos
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Re: Re: Who can defeat A celestial in Battle?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Mr Master
Here's a plethora of individuals and artifacts that can take out a Celestial or more:
Tier 1:
THOTI
Tier 2:
1. Pre-Retcon Beyonder
2. Pre-Retcon Molecule Man
Tier 3:
The Living Tribunal
Tier 4: (no particular order)
HOM Wanda (Full control)
Meggan (Full potential)
Merlyn (Matrix empowered)
Cap Brit. with the Sword of Might & Amulet of Right
Havok (Merged with the Nexus of Realities)
616 Jaspers merged with Fury (he must have ALL of Fury's abilities)
Infinity Gauntlet
Oblivion
Jamie Braddock
Beyonders
Tier 5:
Celestial Nullifier
Ultimate Nullifier
Tier 6:
1.Abraxas
2. Post-Retcon Molecule Man (Owen Reece's alter ego)
Tier 7:
1. Entropy
2. Multi-Eternity/Infinity
3. Multi-Death
(I never seen anything to hint at the existence of a multi-Oblivion)
Tier 8:
1. The Infinites
2. The Cosmic Containment Units
3. The Makers
4. Atleza
5. Galactus Insatiable (only seen once) ... Potentially Higher ...
6. Genis-vell Full potential (seen during HOM)
7. Maelstrom empowered by Anomaly/Oblivion/Eon/Quantum Bands
Tier 9:
1. 616 Eternity/Infinity
2. The Phoenix Force/WPOTC
3. Korvac (empowered by Galactus' World Ship)
4. 616 (Death - Lord Chaos & Master Order)
5. Rest of the Abstracts
Tier 10: (alternate and divergent Universes)
1. ALL Other Eternity/Infinity's
2. ALL Other (Death - Lord Chaos & Master Order)
Why do you count the 616 variants of Eternity, Infinity, Death etc as > ones not from 616?
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Mar 9th, 2007 01:29 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Who can defeat A celestial in Battle?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Why do you count the 616 variants of Eternity, Infinity, Death etc as > ones not from 616?
616 is generally the proving grounds.
Beings conquer universes and dimension and whatever, then step into the 616, and bite it.
That's the way I take it.
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Mar 9th, 2007 01:34 PM
Symmetric Chaos
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Juntai
616 is generally the proving grounds.
Beings conquer universes and dimension and whatever, then step into the 616, and bite it.
That's the way I take it.
That makes sense.
GO 616!
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