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Proteus versus Mad Jim Jaspers

This is Earth 616 Jaspers, and HoM Proteus in Morph's body. Which Reality Warper would prevail?

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jim is a higher class of warper

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Proteus will copy his power, like he did with the Living Tribunal's.

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Proteus will copy his power, like he did with the Living Tribunal's.

Not Protege, Proteus. Different people.


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Proteus will copy his power, like he did with the Living Tribunal's.


When did he copy LT's powers?


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As mentioned, it was Protege, not proteus who copied LT's powers.

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When did he copy LT's powers?

Never.

PROTEGE copied LT's powers. He's thinking of the wrong guy.


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no

you are thinking of amazo

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jim is a higher class of warper


Do we know that for sure? In Exiles #90, Enemies of the Stars Part 1 (of 5), it's suggested by the Omniscient Narrator that he may in fact be the most powerful being in Creation (entire Omniverse taken into account), and that if his personality were to resurface (he possessed the personality and memories of Morph at the time, and wasn't aware that he was in fact Proteus), that Creation itself would cease to exist. No other being in Marvel Canon has been indicated at being as great an Omniversal threat, so would it be safe to say that Mutant X may in fact be the most powerful being in the Marvel Continuity?

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Do we know that for sure? In Exiles #90, Enemies of the Stars Part 1 (of 5), it's suggested by the Omniscient Narrator that he may in fact be the most powerful being in Creation (entire Omniverse taken into account), and that if his personality were to resurface (he possessed the personality and memories of Morph at the time, and wasn't aware that he was in fact Proteus), that Creation itself would cease to exist. No other being in Marvel Canon has been indicated at being as great an Omniversal threat, so would it be safe to say that Mutant X may in fact be the most powerful being in the Marvel Continuity?

No

MJJ was also stated as being a omniversal threat.

And it was done AFTER Proteus so it is unknown how they would compare

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Well Jamie Braddock must be higher since he can protect people from Proteus's warping.


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MJJ is so far beyond Proteus that is not even comparable.


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No

MJJ was also stated as being a omniversal threat.


Read my post again (key words: as great an Omniversal threat). Jim Jaspers had been stated as being an Omniversal threat, sure, but with Proteus, the Omniscient Narrator is actually stating that he would (as in definitive) bring forth the end of Creation

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And it was done AFTER Proteus so it is unknown how they would compare


...?

Don't quite catch your meaning here.

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MJJ is so far beyond Proteus that is not even comparable.


Proof?

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jaspers ftw

better question, is that jaspers in the new x men: die by the sword


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Well Jamie Braddock must be higher since he can protect people from Proteus's warping.


Reality Warping period, not just Proteus', which would include Jamie's own, which makes your argument nonsensical. That essentially shows that simply using Reality Warping powers to make one immune from them doesn't make your powers greater than those that mentioned person is immune to.

By your logic, Longshot possesses greater power than Proteus given that he can shield himself and others from the direct effects of his Reality Warping. Yet, that would flat out make no sense, given narration, showings, and what Proteus does to Longshot in a definitive "What if?" future (he owns him along with the rest of the Exiles) as seen in Exiles #90.

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Proteus will copy his power, like he did with the Living Tribunal's.
Ha... n00b.

Vulcan wins.


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Proof?


Am, Proteus never came close to what Jaspers did. He has never close shown the range of power like MJJ.
Really, it's not even comparable.


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Absence of proof =/= proof of absence. Not displaying that level of power doesn't mean that he doesn't have it. As I said, in a definitive "What IF?" future, Proteus, through his sheer power, is able to bring forth the end of creation. Nothing even hints at Jim Jaspers having a level of power anywhere close to that.

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