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Rugal Bernstein vs. Ryu Hayabusa

Some of you have been heard to make the rediculous claim that Ryu Hayabusa can beat Terry Bogard. roll eyes (sarcastic)

So I'm gonna add to this and make it worse. evil face I challenge the DOA fans to prove to me that Hayabusa can defeat the greatest boss in the history of KOF, Rugal Bernstein.


1st match: Straight H2H. No ki powers.
2nd match: Straight fight.
3rd match: Hayabusa gets his sword.
4th match: Same as above, but it's Omega Rugal.


Ok, let's get ready to rumble. FIGHT!


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You kidding? Half of the guys on the board claim that Hayabusa can beat anybody.


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I know. I'm well aware that this is going to turn into a full fledged flame war. I'm going to prove once and for all that DOA has no business competing with SF/KOF. And Hayabusa's feats from Ninja Gaiden ARE NOT APPLICABLE! As far as I'm concerned, they are two different characters. Though personally, I think Rugal could take that version too. evil face


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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
And Hayabusa's feats from Ninja Gaiden ARE NOT APPLICABLE! As far as I'm concerned, they are two different characters. Though personally, I think Rugal could take that version too. evil face

How can you consider them different, when both occur within the EXACT same continuity? Both games even mention each other. Hayabusa is Hayabusa.....period.

Also, who even said Hayabusa would beat Terry in hand to hand?

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I know. I'm well aware that this is going to turn into a full fledged flame war. I'm going to prove once and for all that DOA has no business competing with SF/KOF. And Hayabusa's feats from Ninja Gaiden ARE NOT APPLICABLE! As far as I'm concerned, they are two different characters. Though personally, I think Rugal could take that version too. evil face


Any boss from M. Bison to Ignitz can drop Hayabusa. Shao Kahn can just bash his head in with his mallet.


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How can you consider them different, when both occur within the EXACT same continuity? Both games even mention each other. Hayabusa is Hayabusa.....period.

Also, who even said Hayabusa would beat Terry in hand to hand?


Don't argue with the OP... the opening post sets the rules of the match, if he wants the gaiden stuff out, then it's out.


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As Darkstorm said, the two are different incarnations of the same person. And it's entirely up to the thread maker as to which is used. But I'll let them in all the same. It's a mismatch either way. Hayabusa can't possibly beat Rugal. You could give him the true dragon sword and he'd still lose.

Edit: I'd like to see whether it makes a difference as to how long Hayabusa lasts against Rugal. So you can argue for either or a combined version. Thanks Darkstorm. thumb up


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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
As Darkstorm said, the two are different incarnations of the same person. And it's entirely up to the thread maker as to which is used. But I'll let them in all the same. It's a mismatch either way. Hayabusa can't possibly beat Rugal. You could give him the true dragon sword and he'd still lose.

Edit: I'd like to see whether it makes a difference as to how long Hayabusa lasts against Rugal. So you can argue for either or a combined version. Thanks Darkstorm. thumb up

- Saying they are different incarnations of the character is contradictory to the team that makes him, not to mention is bs. In DOA3, he's wearing one outfit. In Ninja Gaiden, he's wearing another and has the Dragon Sword. In DOA4, he's wearing the same outfit he wore in Ninja Gaiden plus he has the Dragon Sword. Clearly, DOA Hayabusa is the same character as Ninja Gaiden Hayabusa.

- The thread maker can set whatever rules he want others will still make a point.

- Prove that Rugal can beat Hayabusa without a doubt. FYI, the True Dragon Sword holds unfathomable spiritual power and is even more powerful than the Dark Dragon Blade. Saying Rugal can beat someone who possess the Dark Dragon Blade is completely absurd.


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In order.

1. Yeah, but as Darkstorm said,

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Don't argue with the OP... the opening post sets the rules of the match, if he wants the gaiden stuff out, then it's out.


2. See 1. I already said you have to consider them as separate and you can argue for the Gaiden version separately from the DOA one.

3. The burden of proof is on you. Keep in mind Omega Rugal was beating the entire KOF 95' cast until he self-destructed.


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Don't argue with the OP... the opening post sets the rules of the match, if he wants the gaiden stuff out, then it's out.

I wasn't arguing the stipulations of the match. I don't care if he wishes to exclude Ninja Gaiden from the match. I was just pointing out that they ARE the same person.
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As Darkstorm said, the two are different incarnations of the same person. And it's entirely up to the thread maker as to which is used. But I'll let them in all the same. It's a mismatch either way. Hayabusa can't possibly beat Rugal. You could give him the true dragon sword and he'd still lose.

You misunderstood me. I'm completely fine with the rules you set. I just wanted you to realize that Hayabusa is still Hayabusa whether he is in Ninja Gaiden or in DOA. If you want to exclude his Ninja Gaiden stuff though, you're free to do so. Hell, I think you came up with a good ruleset.

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You kidding? Half of the guys on the board claim that Hayabusa can beat anybody.

Just because they said Ryu can beat most people in SF?


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Any boss from M. Bison to Ignitz can drop Hayabusa. Shao Kahn can just bash his head in with his mallet.

Drop Hayabusa probably in hand to hand, and holding back. But I don't see Ryu not using his techniques and legendary weapon to WTFPWN them to win.


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......No. Just no. This thread was intended as spite. And only a few people seem to get how big a mismatch this is.




Hayabusa CANNOT beat M. Bison or other top tier characters like him. If he's this godly character in Ninja Gaiden, why doesn't it carry over to DOA? Why doe he get beat up, experimented on, and in general, not WTF-PWN everyone else in the series? Either the DOA crowd is stronger than the enemies in the gaiden games (highly unlikely), Hayabusa was weakened for gameplay balance (maybe, but it doesn't explain some of his losses), or......it's separate continuity and the two are different versions of the character.


You seriously think he can beat Omega Rugal or God Rugal with his sword? What the f**k?


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Hayabusa CANNOT beat M. Bison or other top tier characters like him. If he's this godly character in Ninja Gaiden, why doesn't it carry over to DOA? Why doe he get beat up, experimented on, and in general, not WTF-PWN everyone else in the series? Either the DOA crowd is stronger than the enemies in the gaiden games (highly unlikely), Hayabusa was weakened for gameplay balance (maybe, but it doesn't explain some of his losses), or......it's separate continuity and the two are different versions of the character.

Hayabusa hasn't been experimented. You must also keep in mind that Ninja Gaiden occurred before DOA and many of the combatants(i.e. Ayane) have grown much in strength since....2 years before the first tournament. It's not a separate continuity. The DOA crowd is just a bit stronger than you are giving them credit. Although, I'll be the first to admit that some are giving DOA a little more credit than they need.(i.e. Hayabusa)

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I think DOA can draw or beat most of the mid tier characters in SF/KOF. And some of the bosses are stronger than mid, but not quite high tier. But Rugal is top tier, and god tier at times. Sorry about the experiment quip. Was thinking of Hayate. But the point stands.


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For a battle like this, you need a perfect stage for this battle. How about the Tower of Lahja from Ninja Gaiden 2? It was one of my favorite stages in the original trilogy (music included).


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1st match: Straight H2H. No ki powers.
2nd match: Straight fight.
3rd match: Hayabusa gets his sword.
4th match: Same as above, but it's Omega Rugal.


Ok, let's get ready to rumble. FIGHT!
1) Rugal takes it.

2)Once again, Rugal takes it.

3) Hayabusa, most likely.

4) Rugal

Saying Hayabusa is overall better means he can take the hole old KOF cast.


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Seeing as how you're one of the only sane people on this board who's knowledgable about DOA, exactly how good is that sword? How high up would it let him win? Btw, by sane, I mean unlike Cloud and Style, you actually realize how big a mismatch this fight is normally. stick out tongue


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Seeing as how you're one of the only sane people on this board who's knowledgable about DOA, exactly how good is that sword? How high up would it let him win? Btw, by sane, I mean unlike Cloud and Style, you actually realize how big a mismatch this fight is normally. stick out tongue

Before you go questioning my sanity, maybe you should actually READ my post. Show me where I said Hayabusa wins this please.

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My apologies. I assumed because you weren't exclaiming spite or that this was an unfair match, that you believed Hayabusa could win. I assumed too much.


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