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Originally posted by all4carnage
THOR WOULD WIN.. he would have pretty good compition but would just overpower gladiater in the end

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Originally posted by leonidas
<<Masterson: Got his ass kicked with WM. (clearly Gladiator was kicking Thor's ass)>>

except for that one little part where masterson KO'D him! and the fight was pretty even - certainly glads was NOT kicking his ass. before he was knocked out that is, by a relatively inexperienced thor. if masterson beat him, the real thor certainly could. a couple magic lightning bolts is all it would take - just like it was enough for masterson. and hulk beat glads down BEFORE stuffing him inside the reactor. he withstood his vision beams, and stuffed them back in his face. glads was incapacitated - that's WHY hulk had to drag him by the scruff of his neck and stuff him into the reactor. and that wasn't even SAVAGE hulk! supreme was shown to be stronger in their x-over as well. cripes, old school colossos gave glads a good fight. glads's only advantage is speed - and thor's been able to hit surfer.

thor takes it.

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Originally posted by leonidas

except for that one little part where masterson KO'D him! and the fight was pretty even - certainly glads was NOT kicking his ass.

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before he was knocked out that is, by a relatively inexperienced thor. if masterson beat him, the real thor certainly could. a couple magic lightning bolts is all it would take - just like it was enough for masterson.

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and hulk beat glads down BEFORE stuffing him inside the reactor. he withstood his vision beams, and stuffed them back in his face. glads was incapacitated - that's WHY hulk had to drag him by the scruff of his neck and stuff him into the reactor. and that wasn't even SAVAGE hulk! supreme was shown to be stronger in their x-over as well. cripes, old school colossos gave glads a good fight. glads's only advantage is speed - and thor's been able to hit surfer.

thor takes it. [/B]

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Originally posted by leonidas
<<And this fight came after, Marvel Vs. DC where Superman kicked Hulk's ass. So guess why Hulk was allowed won against Gladiator?>>

ah yes, my favourite - the big marvel conspiracy issue! i'm sure that's exactly what the writers were thinking. use facts instead of stuff you've read on the forum. marvel needed hulk to look good so they have him beat the 'world-renowned gladiator!' much more prestigious then having him beat thor or juggernaut. you must be kidding. and for the third time - hulk pummeled him BEFORE he surmised anything about the radiation. he stuffed his laser vision into his brain!! glads was finished at that point. and fact is the masterson fight WAS pretty even considering masterson himself said he was inexperienced. he could have summoned REAL lightning if he knew how.

and thor's real lightning is likely more powerful than living lightning - you're right, probably wouldn't take a 'couple' probably take one shot. he's vulnerable to magic.

fact - hulk (not savage) ruined him (he even tried the 'speed blitz/carry him to space attack!)
fact - masterson ko'd him and masterson was a shadow of the real thor

let's see: he survived an explosion, there is a conspiracy against him and before masterson ko'd him you think he was winning the fight, oh, and bad writing. those are your reasons glads beats thor?? thor who has fought every heavyweight in the histry of marvel and beaten almost all of them? what if his, er, confidence is low???

kgkg, i know you're a glads fan. cool. but you can't deny he was beaten by masterson and hulk and has had some bad showings in other books - he was also seriously disrespected in the tyrant battle where ss was clearly shown to be superior to him. tell me the toughest person glads has officially beaten/ko'd because the best i come up with is pre-upgrade colossos - and that was a great fight.

in an all out battle thor wins.

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Originally posted by leonidas
<<who cares about masterson...The real Thor and Gladiator have fought...why does everyone always bring up Masterson who has nothing to do with these two fighting.>>

who cares? masterson WAS thor for a time! quite a while actually. the thread is thor v gladiator, soooooo, i'd say it has some relevence . . .

and kg, those pics are great. i'm curious what issue they're from - obviously they're quite recent. i'm also a bit . . . skeptical that glads could . . . kick thor's hammer away from him. but he apparently did. after those pics, i can certainly see your side of things a little better. doesn't change my mind, or what has happened to glads in the past though - in an all out, no holds barred battle i still say thor (with no second persona to inconveniently change into - though to be fair masterson was also a second persona) takes it.

but i'd never seen the battle you showed (again, it must be pretty recent), and i can see your side more clearly.

i never said it wouldn't be a good fight - i just think thor's past accomplishment far outweigh glads's and that thor would be the one left standing.

ps-you're right about juggs - that's actually always bothered me a little. so you think gladiator could take him? i'm sure you know where i fall on THAT one . . .

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Originally posted by kgkg
Masterson: Got his ass kicked with WM. (clearly Gladiator was kicking Thor's ass)

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Originally posted by kgkg
Jake: This time Gladiator attacked at high speed, and send his Mjolnir packing, then proceed with kicking Thor ass.(again clearly Gladiator is stronger and faster)

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Originally posted by kgkg
Thor only wins outside help
1.) living lighting / cheap attack while glad is chilling , outside help , magic enhancements

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Originally posted by Beyonder
Um okay. Hulk also knew Gladiator's weakness for some dumb reason.

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Originally posted by leonidas
masterson WAS thor for a time! quite a while actually. the thread is thor v gladiator, soooooo, i'd say it has some relevence . . .

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Originally posted by leonidas
hmm, ya know, i was looking and looking at those scans thinking . . . they look awfully familiar. and low and behold - thor 34-35! i DO have them! but kg those are terrible issues for you to use! after your scans where he kicks thor away and thor becomes human, glads totals tarene then goes looking to finish thor. thor regains his hammer and . . . things don't go well for glads after that.

thor beats the %$#@ out of him! after they save that jet, the battle continues and, well, glads gets crushed! thor even tells glads as he is crushing him that he (thor) can no longer hold back! he'd been holding back because he thought glads a friend - when he really decided to cut loose in the battle he ko'd glads again! glads even returns at the end to zarrko (who had sent him to kill thor) and says:

"I did my best, but he's too strong. Thor lives."

kg, by glads's OWN admission thor is too strong for him! and there was no outside interference in that issue. glads was already ko'd when tarene showed up, and she was out of the whole second part of the fight. (wish i had a %$#@ scanner!) to me, anyone who wants DEFINITIVE proof (uttered by glads himself) as to who really IS the more powerful of the 2, just please check out thor #35. to me the debate is really over. anyone who reads that issue should be convined.

i'm not renegging on what i said earlier, kg - your opinion is still your own, and i respect that, but after issue #35, i'm just not entirely sure how you continue to hold it so tightly.